Talk:Comparative value of steel
did you include the raws needed to purify gas into propane? myszaq 19:16, 7 January 2007 (EST)
- No, I didn't, good catch, fixed. Ceselb 09:21, 8 January 2007 (EST)
Chars do use propane a lot, often coal is used to purify the gas, not wood. Frits 00:43, 9 January 2007 (EST)
I made a comparison of using gas against using only coal. If you have all the drills and short transport ways, using coal seems to be better than using propane. --LimSup 11:12, 26 May 2007 (EDT)
USING COAL
Obtaining iron ore, coal and limestone.
Only required tools, no drills.
- 120000g iron ore
- 229 days (any hammer)
- 171429g hematite
- 229 days (manual)
- 132000g coal
- 528 days (manual)
- 440000g limestone
- 400 days (manual)
total: 1386 days
Best tools, no drills.
- 120000g iron ore
- 115 days (sledgehammer)
- 171429g hematite
- 115 days (pickaxe)
- 132000g coal
- 264 days (pickaxe)
- 440000g limestone
- 200 days (shovel)
total: 694 days
Best tools, all drills.
- 120000g iron ore
- 115 days (sledgehammer)
- 171429g hematite
- 46 days (hematite drill)
- 132000g coal
- 132 days (coal drill)
- 440000g limestone
- 100 days (limestone quarry)
total: 393 days
Making steel, after obtaining iron ore, coal and limestone.
- 100000g steel
- 143 days
- 60000g iron
- 172 days
- 120000g iron ore
- 72000g coal
- 240000g limestone
- 60000g coal
- 200000g limestone
total: 315 days
USING GAS
Obtaining iron ore, propane and limestone.
Best tools, all drills.
- 72691g iron ore
- 70 days (sledgehammer)
- 103845g hematite
- 28 days (hematite drill)
- 32712g propane
- 219 days
- 43616g gas
- 146 days (gas valve)
- 11995g wood
- 20 days (axe)
- or 3272g coal
- 4 days (coal drill)
- 327106g limestone
- 75 days (limestone quarry)
total: 542 days (using coal instead of wood)
Making steel, after obtaining iron ore, propane and limestone.
- 100000g steel
- 104 days
- 54518g iron
- 104 days
- 72691g iron ore
- 14539g propane
- 145382g limestone
- 18173g propane
- 181724g limestone
total: 208 days
RESULTS
only coal:
- Only required tools, no drills: 1701 days, 58.7 g/day
- Best tools, no drills: 1009 days, 99.1 g/day
- best tools, all drills: 708 days, 141.2 g/day
gas and coal, no wood:
- best tools, all drills: 750 days, 133.3 g/day
gas and wood, no coal:
- best tools, all drills: 766 days, 130.5 g/day
MACHINES AND TOOLS
- Needed machines: smelting furnace, stone table or work bench
- Optional machines: hematite drill, coal drill, limestone quarry
- Needed tools: pair of bellows, any hammer
- Optional tools: pickaxe, shovel, sledgehammer
Number crunching again, I calculated that you can even get better than 141.2 g/day by producing the iron with propane (purified with coal) and the steel with coal. This way you get more than 145 g/day. Of course under the assumption that you have all the drills and machines in one place. --LimSup 14:58, 15 August 2007 (EDT)
How about this practically irrelevant process?
493 coal
- 1 days
212 wood
- 1 days
352 coke
- 1 days
- 493 coal
- 212 wood
5270 oil
- 5 days
3513 petrol
- automatic (7.1 days)
- 5270 oil
- 352 coke
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360000 limestone
- 82 days
21334 gas
- 72 days
61600 coal
- 48 days (62 days without petrol)
- 2370 petrol
16000 propane
- 107 days
- 21334 gas
- 1600 coal
114286 hematite
- 23 days (31 days without petrol)
- 1143 petrol
80000 iron ore
- 77 days
- 114286 hematite
60000 iron
- 115 days
- 80000 iron ore
- 16000 propane
- 160000 limestone
100000 steel
- 143 days
- 60000 iron
- 60000 coal
- 200000 limestone
Total:
- 675 days, 148.1 g/day
- Without rounding: 668.848 days, 149.51 g/day
Tools and machines:
- Oilderrick, Axe, Coaldrill, Cokeoven, Fractionaldistillationstack, Limestonequarry, Gasvalve, Gaspurifier, Hematitedrill, Sledgehammer, Stonetable, Smeltingfurnace, Bellows
Drilling without petrol:
- 689 days, 145.1 g/day
--LimSup 16:43, 15 August 2007 (EDT)
