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Shaudawn: /* Notes on Skills */

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‎Notes on Skills

Shaudawn: /* No Expert Newspawns */

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‎No Expert Newspawns

Shaudawn: /* Notes on Skills */

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‎Notes on Skills

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‎Notes on Skills: new section

Shaudawn: /* No Expert Newspawns */ new section

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‎No Expert Newspawns: new section

Kaimera at 17:13, 5 January 2009

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Kaimera at 17:11, 5 January 2009

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Ceselb at 12:07, 9 January 2007

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Hellzon at 11:42, 26 March 2006

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Hellzon at 11:42, 26 March 2006

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 ** '''skilled:''' 6000 to 8000
 ** '''expert:''' 8000 to 10000
-* Newly created characters (a.k.a. "newspawns") will eventually be capped to start below 8000 in every skill (not yet implemented as of September 2021, but it's comin').
+* Newly created characters (a.k.a. "newspawns") will eventually be capped to start below 8000 in every skill (<s>not yet implemented as of September 2021, but it's comin'</s> It's here.  All newspawns are capped.).
 === The Strength Attribute and Fighting Skill as an Example ===

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	--[[User:Shaudawn\|Shaudawn]] ([[User talk:Shaudawn\|talk]]) 21:26, 1 August 2021 (UTC)		--[[User:Shaudawn\|Shaudawn]] ([[User talk:Shaudawn\|talk]]) 21:26, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
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		+	=== Implementation ===
		+	Starting 2021-10-16, new characters no longer spawn with expert skills (skillful at best).
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		+	--[[User:Shaudawn\|Shaudawn]] ([[User talk:Shaudawn\|talk]])

	== Notes on Skills ==		== Notes on Skills ==

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	* '''Q:''' How does all this Fighting & Strength levelling compare to daily skill-building through normal projects on other skills?		* '''Q:''' How does all this Fighting & Strength levelling compare to daily skill-building through normal projects on other skills?
	* '''A:''' 32xp a day for normal skills...		* '''A:''' 32xp a day for normal skills...
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		+	--[[User:Shaudawn\|Shaudawn]] ([[User talk:Shaudawn\|talk]]) 22:52, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

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		+	== Notes on Skills ==
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		+	* Each skill is a value between 0 (minimum) and 10000 (maximum).
		+	* There are no "jumps" in skills. Each skill progresses as they are practiced.
		+	* The player will see their skill reflected vaguely as awkward, novice, efficient, skilled, or expert. <br> But changing between these isn't a ''jump'' in skill. (e.g. You just completed baking your umpteenth batch of cookies when you notice that you have gone from "efficient" to "skilled" in Cooking. That means somewhere along the way, your skill passed 6000...maybe from 5999 up to 6001.)
		+	** '''awkward:''' 0 to 2000
		+	** '''novice:''' 2000 to 4000
		+	** '''efficient:''' 4000 to 6000
		+	** '''skilled:''' 6000 to 8000
		+	** '''expert:''' 8000 to 10000
		+	* Newly created characters (a.k.a. "newspawns") will eventually be capped to start below 8000 in every skill (not yet implemented as of September 2021, but it's comin').
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		+	=== The Strength Attribute and Fighting Skill as an Example ===
		+	<!-- (mostly because that's all you thugs ever think about...kill, kill, kill... what is this, Call of Duty? GTA? A million FPSs, and...uhg...violence) -->
		+	'''Note:''' Strength and Fighting are both considered "Skills" in the game.<br>
		+	'''Note:''' Sparring with a waster will increase your character at 80% Fighting and 20% Strength -- i.e. 80% of the effort will increase Fighting while 20% will boost your Strength
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		+	* '''Q:''' How quickly can daily sparring with a strength focused weapon raise the Strength skill? Let's say with a [[wooden spoon]] or something.
		+	* '''A:''' Each attack against a person at 100% effort gives 10 experience distributed between Fighting skill and Strength, according to [[Skill weighting\|Skill weight]], and also reduced by [[Tiredness]].<br> For example, using a spoon is 30% skill weight. So, if you attacked at 100% only when you weren't tired, then you would get 7xp to Strength per hit.<br> If you spawned at the lowest (1000xp) then it would take about 1290 (give or take) hits to get to a maximum of 10000xp.
		+	* '''Q:''' How does hunting contribute to increasing a character's Strength?
		+	* '''A:''' You get 2xp per hunt (using 100% effort). The gain there is not affected by [[Skill weighting\|Skill weight]] or [[Tiredness]].
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		+	* '''Q:''' How long does it take to recover from [[Tiredness]]?
		+	* '''A:''' At 100% effort, each sparring or attack attempt costs 15% energy, and is cumulative for each attack (i.e. you will be 30% tired after two successive attacks, 45% after three and so on). Your character will recuperate about 5% per Cantr hour (remember, each Cantr hour = 3 [[:category:Fiction\|Earth]] hours) or about 40% per day ''automatically'', without utilizing [[:category:resting furniture\|resting furniture]]. If you were practicing Fighting and used the best resting furniture ([[swimming pool]], which restores 21% per hour for 168 per day), then ten full attacks would yield about 70xp per day.
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		+	* '''Q:''' How does all this Fighting & Strength levelling compare to daily skill-building through normal projects on other skills?
		+	* '''A:''' 32xp a day for normal skills...

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	Is there any information on how health/damage affect your skills? Are fighting and hunting the only ones affected? [[User:Kaimera\|Kaimera]] 8:50, 5 January 2009 (PST).		Is there any information on how health/damage affect your skills? Are fighting and hunting the only ones affected? [[User:Kaimera\|Kaimera]] 8:50, 5 January 2009 (PST).
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		+	== No Expert Newspawns ==
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		+	Whatever the highest skill level or label is, no one should spawn with the highest skill level. We should require effort to reach this so that it's more meaningful.
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		+	Implementation-wise, the max level should be the highest point at which the skill still says "skillful" and not "expert".
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		+	'''Principles'''
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		+	Accumulative gain: There is long-term progress over time.
		+	Strategy: There is advantage to creative or purposeful strategy to reach goals.
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		+	from: Cantr Trello <sup>[https://trello.com/c/e6lajaeT/141-no-expert-newspawns-details]</sup>
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		+	--[[User:Shaudawn\|Shaudawn]] ([[User talk:Shaudawn\|talk]]) 21:26, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

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	Add a section for projects without skill? [[User:Ceselb\|Ceselb]] 07:07, 9 January 2007 (EST)		Add a section for projects without skill? [[User:Ceselb\|Ceselb]] 07:07, 9 January 2007 (EST)

−	Is there any information on how damage ~~affects~~ your ~~skill~~? [[User:Kaimera\|Kaimera]] 8:50, 5 January 2009 (PST).	+	Is there any information on how health/damage affect your skills? Are fighting and hunting the only ones affected? [[User:Kaimera\|Kaimera]] 8:50, 5 January 2009 (PST).

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 ***Physical strength affects both hunting and fighting, and also determines dragging ability and resistance. I believe (not sure, though) that physical strength is the only skill that affects combat or hunting damage.[[User:Sho|Sho]] 00:18, 10 Feb 2006 (EST)
 ***Physical strength AND Fighting or Hunting skill are the only skills which affect combat or hunting damage. --[[User:Chris Johnson|Chris Johnson]] 11:58, 10 Feb 2006 (EST)
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 Add a section for projects without skill? [[User:Ceselb|Ceselb]] 07:07, 9 January 2007 (EST)

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	Repairing (separate for tools and weapons) is missing, right? Just asking before I add it. Also, the gathering skills are a mess, so I might perhaps put in notes in farming/collecting/digging/mining and say that? Will also add where skills are noted. [[User:Hellzon\|Hellzon]] 06:42, 26 Mar 2006 (EST)		Repairing (separate for tools and weapons) is missing, right? Just asking before I add it. Also, the gathering skills are a mess, so I might perhaps put in notes in farming/collecting/digging/mining and say that? Will also add where skills are noted. [[User:Hellzon\|Hellzon]] 06:42, 26 Mar 2006 (EST)
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		+	Add a section for projects without skill? [[User:Ceselb\|Ceselb]] 07:07, 9 January 2007 (EST)

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	***Physical strength affects both hunting and fighting, and also determines dragging ability and resistance. I believe (not sure, though) that physical strength is the only skill that affects combat or hunting damage.[[User:Sho\|Sho]] 00:18, 10 Feb 2006 (EST)		***Physical strength affects both hunting and fighting, and also determines dragging ability and resistance. I believe (not sure, though) that physical strength is the only skill that affects combat or hunting damage.[[User:Sho\|Sho]] 00:18, 10 Feb 2006 (EST)
	***Physical strength AND Fighting or Hunting skill are the only skills which affect combat or hunting damage. --[[User:Chris Johnson\|Chris Johnson]] 11:58, 10 Feb 2006 (EST)		***Physical strength AND Fighting or Hunting skill are the only skills which affect combat or hunting damage. --[[User:Chris Johnson\|Chris Johnson]] 11:58, 10 Feb 2006 (EST)
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		+	Repairing (separate for tools and weapons) is missing, right? Just asking before I add it. Also, the gathering skills are a mess, so I might perhaps put in notes in farming/collecting/digging/mining and say that? Will also add where skills are noted. [[User:Hellzon\|Hellzon]] 06:42, 26 Mar 2006 (EST)