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User:Nick Roberts

2007-03-08T08:21:14Z

Nick Roberts:

Steel sabre

2007-02-13T23:38:07Z

Nick Roberts: /* Real-life context */

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time=1|
resources=''none''|
objects=[[steel sabre blade]] [[small steel hilt]]|
tools={{peen hammer}}|
machines={{anvil}}|
location=|
rot=4|
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==Description and uses==

==Real-life context==
The sabre (or saber) is a European backsword with a distinct curvature and a rather large hand guard, covering the knuckles of the hand as well as the thumb and forefinger. The length of sabres varied, but they were always made to be worn in a scabbard hanging from the waist.

The origins of the sabre are somewhat unclear, and it may come from designs such as the falchion or the scimitar (shamshir) used in the middle ages by such Central Asian cavalry as the Turks, Tatars, and Mongols. Originally, the sabre was used as a cavalry weapon that gradually came to replace the various straight bladed cutting sword types on the battlefield. As time went on, sabres became insignia of rank in many armies, and dress use of sabres continues to this day in some armed services around the world.

The sabre saw heavy military use in the early 19th century, particularly in the Napoleonic Wars, where Napoleon used heavy cavalry charges to great effect against his enemies. The sabre faded as a weapon by mid-century, as longer range rifles made cavalry charges obsolete, even suicidal. In the American Civil War, the sabre was used infrequently as a weapon, but saw notable deployment in the Battle of Brandy Station and at East Cavalry Field at the Battle of Gettysburg in 1863. Many cavalrymen - particularly on the Confederate side - abandoned the long, heavy weapons in favour of revolvers and carbines.

{{wikipedia|Sabre}}

===Images===
[[Image:Steel sabre.gif|frame|Image Source: [http://www.knives-rfc.lu Rudy Fioretti Coutellerie]|left]]
[[Image:Steel sabre 2.jpg|frame|Image Source: [http://commons.wikimedia.org Wikimedia Commons]|left]]

Current events

2007-02-11T09:03:07Z

Nick Roberts:

==What's going on==

===Templates===
I've created a couple of templates for editor use: [[Template:Stub]] and [[Template:Rewrite]]. [[Template:Stub]] is to be used on pages that are missing large amounts of important information - an example is [[Broom]]. [[Template:Rewrite]] is to be used on less severe cases of missing information, or on pages that merely need rewriting - an example is [[Alumina refiner]]. [[User:Sho|Sho]] 15:21, 24 Sep 2005 (EDT)
*Some changes have been made to the templates. From now on all editor templates will be listed on [[Help:Templates]]. [[User:Sho|Sho]] 14:42, 13 Oct 2005 (EDT)

=== Admin ===

All the no-sysop baloney is solved; [[User:Sho|Sho]] is our sysop --[[User:Nick Roberts|Nick Roberts]] 04:03, 11 February 2007 (EST)

=== Language setup ===
Do you think maybe the different languages ought to have different wikis, instead of being on the same pages? --[[User:Nick Roberts|Nick Roberts]] 20:30, 12 Jul 2005 (EDT)
*I agree. --[[User:Creepyguyinblack|Creepyguyinblack]] 04:50, 13 Jul 2005 (EDT)
*I changed it. --[[User:Jos Elkink|Jos Elkink]] 05:08, 13 Jul 2005 (EDT)
*Would it be possible to make a true multi-language setup, similar to Wikipedia's? I don't know what's involved in making that work (I have a suspicion that it's not feasile here), but it's kind of annoying when half of the time [[Special:Randompage]] brings up a Polish page; also crosslinking articles is rather inelegant with the current system (no framework; also there are some pages like [[Jeep(pl)]]. [[User:Sho|Sho]]
*That would certainly be preferable... and was what I had in mind when originally making this suggestion. I don't like coming across polish articles when clicking on random page, or having search results clogged up with Polish links. --[[User:Nick Roberts|Nick Roberts]] 08:37, 15 Sep 2005 (EDT)

=== Agglomeration vs. subdivision ===

Some categories of items, such as [[tools]], have all of their elements listed on the same page. Others, such as [[resources]], have separate pages for everything. My gut instinct (as a Wikipedian) is to split everything into separate pages and use categories to tie them together (it makes it easier for people to just type what they're looking for in the search box), but I can see why we might want to keep things in big metapages - it's similar to the format found in IC guides, often the individual data aren't big enough for individual articles, and it would be loads of unrewarding data-entry grunt work. Anyone have any opinion? [[User:Sho|Sho]]

* The category system ([[tools]]) is so much clearer and easier to access the information you're looking for, so whilst I understand the Wikipedian urge to split everything, I think that the category system still provides easily accessible information. I cry a little on the inside when trying to find stuff on the seperate system ([[resources]]) - segregating the data, whilst easier to categorise and search, adds unnecessary pain in wading through links and editing pages. [[User:Kabl00ey|Kabl00ey]] 00:07, 17 Sep 2005 (EDT)
** With proper use of categories, I think splitting makes things easier. In Firefox, I can use quicksearches to instantly pull up a page on anything that has its own page, without clicking on any links. I can't do that with a monolithic megapage. In the same way, it's easier to just punch the thing you're looking for into the search box - one click - with split pages. Categories can bring the pages back together anyway. [[User:Sho|Sho]] 00:35, 17 Sep 2005 (EDT)
*** I agree with Sho, the category system that was used for the resources worked great. I think a similar system should be used for machines, buildings, vehicles, tools, et al. --[[User:Nick Roberts|Nick Roberts]] 08:53, 18 Sep 2005 (EDT)
****I'm surprised the tool set-up has lasted so long, it was only a copy/paste from an ingame guide I'd made - it looks ugly here. I'd like a segregated set-up there, but not for clothing I don't think, as that'd be no more of a copy of the in-game set-up - I've started discussion on clothing about how I'd like to go about finishing that section.--[[User:Hallucinatingfarmer|Hallucinatingfarmer]] 18:13, 22 Sep 2005 (EDT)
*****Yeah, everyone agrees with that HF. It just hasn't been gotten to yet. --[[User:Nick Roberts|Nick Roberts]] 13:49, 27 Sep 2005 (EDT)

===Resource Department disclosure===
Long-standing question: Since the repeal of the "find out in game" rule (or FOIG), should the RD be allowed/required to release to the wiki all information that can be discovered in-game?

Since I expect some long-winded responses to this that won't fit in a nested list format (or maybe that's just me), please post responses as subsections. [[User:Sho|Sho]] 22:49, 11 Oct 2005 (EDT)

====Yes====

The purpose of FOIG's repeal was to remove the effect of certain characters having advantages over other characters because their players knew more than other players. If we restrict RD's release of information that could be discovered IC, it's possible for that situation to arise again - a character gains an informational advantage because his player tried something, with a different character, that no player has posted on the wiki about. There are two solutions to this problem. One is to require that all players wiki any information they obtain in-game as soon as they get it. This is unenforceable and silly. The other is to have RD wiki all obtainable information to level the playing field in advance.

Another reason is, simply, efficiency. Generally those who oppose full disclosure argue that players should work to find obtainable data on their own. The problem is that obtainable data is often not at all easy to obtain. Some data, such as the amounts of resources certain animals drop when hunted, is precisely obtainable, but only if characters spend significant resources to discover them. Do we really need to have a situation where players have to use their characters and significant amounts of their own time to obtain information that could be retrieved in under a minute by RD staff?

There is also some precedent. Resource gathering rates are arguably something that realistically should not be displayed as explicitly as they are in-game; even more so the 20% deviation in output. Building capacity was freely released by RD (even vehicle capacities, which RD is refusing to release, is being witheld not because they should not be released in general, but because they will soon be outdated), even though it is an excellent example of obtainable data that would take colossal effort to discover in-game (to my knowledge no character or player had anything approaching precise values for building capacities before RD released them on the wiki).

[[User:Sho|Sho]] 22:42, 11 Oct 2005 (EDT)

*Strictly speaking RD did not release the building capacity infomation. Thses details where released by the Programming Department (ProgD). A bug was discovered which effectively disabled the maximum number of persons . Since correction of this bug generated a number of support queries , ProgD felt that publishing this information would help explain what seemed to be changes in room capacities. --[[User:Chris Johnson|Chris Johnson]] 05:20, 12 Oct 2005 (EDT)

===Disambiguation for tools===
There are many cases where projects require either or two tools, such as projects that require a [[hammer]] or a [[stone hammer]] (but display the requirement as "[[hammer]]"). How will we treat these here? I can think of two options:
#We could replace every instance of "[[hammer]]" in a project requirements list with "[[hammer]] or [[stone hammer]]."
#We could use a special page for those. For example, create the page [[Hammer (requirement)]] to explain how the hammer requirement works. If we go with this, the way in which we name these pages (and what we put on them) is up for discussion.
What ideas do people have? [[User:Sho|Sho]] 23:35, 14 Oct 2005 (EDT)

For instance, iron or [[bronze anvil]]... they both enable the same sort of projects. Perhaps we should have one consolidated anvil page, with info about both? Same would go for knives and hammers. Thoughts? --[[User:Nick Roberts|Nick Roberts]] 05:20, 24 Oct 2005 (EDT)

I've gone ahead and dropped in a system that uses templates. When a project requires either of two tools, like a hammer or stone hammer, you use the template in place of the tool name - in this case, <nowiki>{{hammer}}</nowiki>. [[User:Sho|Sho]] 18:18, 25 Dec 2005 (EST)

===Machinery format change===
Yesterday I added some coin data to [[Coin press]]. I used a different format for this, using a table. I think this could be extended to the other machinery project listings, making them much more compact. Comments? I can make a sample page if anyone wants to see it. [[User:Sho|Sho]] 18:26, 6 Dec 2005 (EST)

=== Spam problem ===

Here - [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Anti-spam_Features] and here - [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Anti_Spam] is some solutions listed. Admin, please make use of these concepts :) - [[User:Wojd|Wojd]]
*Well, who do you mean by "admin"? [[User:Kabl00ey|Kabl00ey]] is the official sysop-moderator, but I've e-mailed him to ban the spammer and he hasn't responded. Jos is the only person who can change fundamental wiki setup, but he doesn't like to get involved with the wiki. I'm the most active and knowledgeable wiki editor, but I have no power to actually do anything other than edit pages and e-mail important people - in any case, none of what you've linked us to here is new to me. Oh, and please sign your comments. [[User:Sho|Sho]] 02:03, 18 Dec 2005 (EST)
**I think, we should use general solutions - this is better than individual bans. I'm quite new in Cantr and in Wiki and I don't know many things yet but it's obvious that Cantr staff need help - and I'll try to help a bit ;) [[User:Wojd|WojD]] 04:50, 18 Dec 2005 (EST)
***My point is that the only people who can implement these general solutions (most of which, incidentally, would not work here - individual bans placed by active sysops really are the best solution) are not active on the wiki. The issue is not that the staff need help but that the staff either don't care or aren't around. I can't do anything, and neither can you, and talking isn't going to change anything. [[User:Sho|Sho]] 17:56, 18 Dec 2005 (EST)
****I'm not very new to Cantr or how the wiki works but I don't compare to Sho. Talking about changes isn't a bad thing, they have to start somewhere. Is there anyone active in the wiki who can make changes? Or atleast get Jos' attention. :) Though I guess that would be you Sho. User:Joshuamonkey
*****As I said, Kabl00ey and Jos are the only people with sysop powers, and Jos doesn't want to have anything to do with the wiki. We had a hard enough time getting Jos to make Kabl00ey a sysop. In any case, there are no server-level or sysop-level changes that will do much to stop spam here, short of giving sysop powers to multiple active editors.[[User:Sho|Sho]] 00:16, 10 Feb 2006 (EST)
******I've recently spoken to Kabl00ey about his inactivity, which he's explained. He hopes to be active again as soon as he can. Hopefully there's nothing too urgent?--[[User:Hallucinatingfarmer|Hallucinatingfarmer]] 14:19, 10 Feb 2006 (EST)
*******Main spam attacks were resolved a good few months ago - New minor spamming (single lines of random numbers by unlogged in users) started 2 weeks ago after Wiki S/W was upgraded to newest version . New version has different user access defaults to our old version so new configuration required - this has now been done - No editting possible unless 1) Logged in User and 2) Have a validated email address - The other anti-spam measures still work --[[User:Chris Johnson|Chris Johnson]] 09:32, 30 June 2006 (EDT)

===Images?===
I would be willing to make graphics (mainly for clothing), ''if'' I'm allowed to use my own styles and skills instead of being forced to study something new for unity's sake. So far no one else has been wanting to make images of clothing, so I doubt I'll be stepping on anyone's toes here. If someone can do it better then sure they can be replaced later on, but I won't even start if people are planning to start removing them just because they're not perfectly photorealistic. I'll do my best, take it or leave it.
Examples of current style found [http://s14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/Seeeks/Cantr/Clothing%20suggestions/ here], though in the future I'd be using more colours and less black outlines to make them more natural.
--[[User:Seko|Seko]] 10:09, 5 August 2006 (EDT)

== Tasks ==

=== Admin tasks ===

==== Pages for Deletion ====
Listed on [[:Category:Delete]]

=== User tasks ===

==== "Stamp of Approval" ====
It's not clear how much of the stuff here is data from Programming or Resources Department people (and therefore probably complete and correct) and how much is contributions from players like me (and therefore likely to need verification). For example, I'm not sure how much to trust the data on the ability of certain boat types to dock to each other; I feel that it looks like some types were left out, but I can't be sure. Some way of, say, putting a stamp of approval on information would be excellent. [[User:Sho|Sho]]

* A good idea would be to add notes into the discussion pages stating the information added and from what department. Personally, I've added the information for vehicles and animals, and so should be 99.9% accurate. --[[User:Anthony|Anthony Roberts]] 22:59, 16 Aug 2005 (EDT)
** The information I added to a bunch of tools and weapons is 100% accurate. :D All from IC. [[User:Joshuamonkey|Joshuamonkey]] 00:00, 12 Feb 2006 (EST)

====Pages needing breakdown====
*[[Tools]] must be broken up into separate [[:Category:Tools]] articles.

== Language specific templates ==
Some spanish pages use the {{:inc1}}, :{{:inc2}} and :{{:inc3}} templates, this results in "language pollution" of [[:Category:Easy_unknowns]], [[:Category:Medium unknowns]], [[:Category:Hard unknowns]] and [[:Category:Incomplete]]. 
Since I don't know spanish, someone else will have to atleast make the spanish templates. [[User:Ceselb|Ceselb]] 10:02, 9 February 2007 (EST)

Talk:Cantr Organizational Constitution

2007-02-11T08:24:29Z

Nick Roberts:

This is outdated ... :)
--[[User:Jos Elkink|Jos Elkink]] 08:00, 29 May 2006 (EDT)

Updated
--[[User:Nick Roberts|Nick Roberts]] 03:24, 11 February 2007 (EST)

Talk:Cantr Organizational Constitution

2007-02-11T08:24:04Z

Nick Roberts:

This is outdated ... :)
--[[User:Jos Elkink|Jos Elkink]] 08:00, 29 May 2006 (EDT)

Updated

----

Cantr Organizational Constitution

2007-02-11T08:23:22Z

Nick Roberts:

* The main governing body of Cantr II will be the Game Administration Board, which will be accountable to the Game Administration Council.
* At least one member of the Game Administration Board should have access to the game database and have knowledge of how to manage an SQL database.
* Both the Game Administration Council and the Game Administration Board will take their decisions by simple majority vote, unless otherwise stated. If there is a deadlock in votes, the respective Chair decides.
* Members of the Game Administration Board are temporary members of the Game Administration Council, unless a particular Game Administration Board member is already a Game Administration Council member, in which case this will continue to be a permanent membership.
* The Game Administration Council can overrule any decision made by the Game Administration Board.
* Additions to and removals from staff positions are done by the Game Administration Board. Positions in the Game Administration Council, the Game Administration Board, as Chair of any of the departments, or the position of Finance Officer, have to be approved by the Game Administration Council. Positions in the Game Administration Board need approval of an unanimous vote in the Game Administration Council.
* Membership of the Game Administration Board, Chair of a department, and Personnel Officer should in general be mutually exclusive, unless the availability of suitable staff warrants otherwise.
* All staff members will have to work to preserve or stimulate: (1) the unique character and original concept of Cantr II; (2) the professionalism in the approach of players; (3) the quality of the program code and the integrity of the game database; (4) the international fame and accessibility of the game.
* These bylaws can only be changed by the Game Administration Council.

Jos Elkink, Dublin, July 23, 2003 (amended March 1, 2006)

Game Administration Board

2007-02-11T08:18:44Z

Nick Roberts: /* Current members */

The GAB is responsible for the daily operation of the game. It appoints new staff members, sets access privileges of game administrators, assists with departments in trouble, and generally oversees the implementation of [[GAC]] policies. The exact role of the GAC is defined in the [[Cantr Organizational Constitution]].

== Current members ==

* Annette Hansford (chair) - Oasis
* Lisa Miller - BlackCanyon
* [[User:Chris Johnson|Chris Johnson]] - cj_cantr

Gab

2007-02-11T08:17:56Z

Nick Roberts:

#REDIRECT [[Game_Administration_Board]]

Staff

2007-02-11T08:17:00Z

Nick Roberts:

#REDIRECT [[Cantr_Staff]]

User:Chris Johnson

2007-02-10T04:09:25Z

Nick Roberts:

Chris Johnson is currently a member of the [[Programming Department]] and GAC

He joined Cantr at the beginning of the 2nd Cantr millenium

Game Administration Board

2007-02-10T04:07:40Z

Nick Roberts:

The GAB is responsible for the daily operation of the game. It appoints new staff members, sets access privileges of game administrators, assists with departments in trouble, and generally oversees the implementation of [[GAC]] policies. The exact role of the GAC is defined in the [[Cantr Organizational Constitution]].

== Current members ==

* Annette Hansford (chair)
* Lisa Miller
* [[User:Chris Johnson|Chris Johnson]]

Gram

2007-02-09T18:46:24Z

Nick Roberts:

The unit of measurement for Cantr.

This has no relation to the metric gram, although it is common in Cantr to refer to other metric measurements, like the kilogram and ton.

A [[Cantrian]] can carry 15000 grams at once.

A [[Cantrian]] weighs 60000 grams.

Crossbow

2007-02-09T18:45:30Z

Nick Roberts: /* Description and uses */

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|-
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type=Weapons|
skill=Manufacturing weapons|
time=2|
resources=|
objects=[[crossbow prod]] [[bowstring]] [[crossbow stirrup]] [[crossbow stock]] [[crossbow trigger]] [[bow iron]] [[revolving nut]]|
tools={{hammer}} {{screwdriver}}|
machines=|
location=|
rot=16|
userot=82|
repair=588
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|-
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==Description and uses==
The [[crossbow]] is the most powerful weapon in Cantr. However, its weight, fast rot rate and complex construction may make the [[steel battle axe]] or [[claymore]] the better choice. It should be noted also that it has the highest skill weighting of all weapons in the game. You won't be doing a lot of damage with it, unless you have very good [[skills]] whether you be attacking an animal or a [[Cantrian]].

==Real-life context==

A crossbow consists of a prod (similar in appearance to a bow) mounted on a stock similar to a rifle stock, which has a mechanism to wind and shoot its bolts. These bolts are typically called quarrels, and do not depend upon lift as arrows do. The stock and trigger of hand-held firearms may have been copied from crossbows.

Crossbow bolts must be made to have consistent weights as the mechanical process of engaging a bolt forces a more uniform process than that of using a bow and arrow. This consistent performance was part of what made the crossbow historically a significant force in warfare.

A crossbow contains a string which is held in place by a nut when the bolt is loaded and the cross bow is engaged (referred to as at full cock). Typically, the nut is at the end of the shelf (also called the bolt rest).

The prod ("bow") and stock of a crossbow were made of good hardwood, such as oak or hard maple. The central European bows were rather exotic as they were constructed of inlays as well as specialized woods. The prod is attached to the stock with hemp rope, linen, whipcord, or other strong cording. This cording is called the bridle of the crossbow. Much as a horse's bridle, it tends to loosen over time, and must be carefully respliced when appropriate.

The crossbow shelf is a flat section above the stock with a straight groove for the bolt to rest upon and travel along as it is shot.

The strings for a crossbow are typically made of strong fibers that would not tend to fray. According to W. F. Patternson, whipcord was very common; however linen, hemp, and sinew were used as well. Even cotton was tried with some success.

The crossbow also includes a trigger, which was later incorporated into rifles, muskets and other firearms. Triggers are known to have been used on crossbows from the early 1400s. Leonardo da Vinci designed many complicated triggers for crossbows, ultimately producing a "hair trigger" that could be shot with very little finger strength.

Crossbow bolts are lighter than arrows, but must be sealed with a varnish to ensure their consistent weight. They also typically only have two fletches per bolt instead of three commonly seen on arrows. This prevents them from snagging on the crossbow nut as they are shot.

{{wikipedia|crossbow}}

===Images===

Claymore

2007-02-09T18:42:11Z

Nick Roberts: /* Description and uses */

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tools={{peen hammer}}|
machines={{anvil}}|
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==Description and uses==
The '''claymore''' is one of the most expensive and powerful weapons in Cantr, surpassed only by the [[steel battle axe]] and [[crossbow]]. It requires large amounts of [[steel]] to build, making it economically inefficient compared to other swords like the [[steel sabre]] or [[steel rapier]].

The advantage of the claymore is that it is almost as powerful as the two stronger weapons, but has a much lower skill weighting. For characters who can afford the claymore, but are awkward fighters; you will want to use the claymore.

==Real-life context==
The term claymore has been used to describe two distinct types of swords used by Scottish warriors and soldiers. The name claymore is thought to be an anglicisation of claidheamh mòr a Gaelic term meaning "big sword", though another theory claims it comes form "claidheamh da lamh", literally two-hand sword. Claidheamh is ultimately cognate with Latin gladius

The first was a large, two-handed sword used in the medieval period. It was used in the constant clan warfare and border fights with the English from circa 1300 to 1700. The last known battle in which it is considered to have been used in a significant number is Battle of Killiecrankie in 1689. It was somewhat smaller than other two-handed swords of the era, and was widely feared because its lightness made it faster in combat than its European counterparts. The two-handed claymore seems to be an offshoot of Early Scottish medieval swords which had developed a distinctive style of a cross-hilt with downsloping arms that ended in spatulate swellings. The average claymore ran about 55 inches (1.4 m) in over all length, with a 13 inch (330 mm) grip and a 42 inch (1 m) blade. Fairly uniform in style, the sword was set with a wheel pommel often capped by a crescent shaped nut and a guard with straight, down-sloping arms ending in quatrefoils and languets running down the center of the blade from the guard.

The second, later, sword to be so designated was a one-handed basket-hilted broadsword popular with Scottish troops in the 18th and 19th centuries. The basket was designed to protect the hand in combat. The latter form of claymore can be seen in some forms of Scottish traditional dance.

{{Wikipedia|Claymore}}

===Images===

Claymore

2007-02-09T18:39:19Z

Nick Roberts: /* Description and uses */

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|-
|
{{Infobox:Manufacture|
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time=2.5|
resources=|
objects=[[claymore blade]] [[large hilt]]|
tools={{peen hammer}}|
machines={{anvil}}|
location=|
rot=3|
userot=17|
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|-
|
{{Infobox:Holdable|
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|}

==Description and uses==
The ''claymore'' is one of the most expensive and powerful weapons in Cantr, surpassed only by the [[steel battle axe]] and [[crossbow]]. It requires large amounts of [[steel]] to build, making it economically inefficient compared to other swords like the [[steel sabre]] or [[steel rapier]].

The advantage of the claymore is that it is almost as powerful as the two stronger weapons, but has a much lower skill weighting. For characters who can afford the claymore, but are awkward fighters; you will want to use the claymore.

==Real-life context==
The term claymore has been used to describe two distinct types of swords used by Scottish warriors and soldiers. The name claymore is thought to be an anglicisation of claidheamh mòr a Gaelic term meaning "big sword", though another theory claims it comes form "claidheamh da lamh", literally two-hand sword. Claidheamh is ultimately cognate with Latin gladius

The first was a large, two-handed sword used in the medieval period. It was used in the constant clan warfare and border fights with the English from circa 1300 to 1700. The last known battle in which it is considered to have been used in a significant number is Battle of Killiecrankie in 1689. It was somewhat smaller than other two-handed swords of the era, and was widely feared because its lightness made it faster in combat than its European counterparts. The two-handed claymore seems to be an offshoot of Early Scottish medieval swords which had developed a distinctive style of a cross-hilt with downsloping arms that ended in spatulate swellings. The average claymore ran about 55 inches (1.4 m) in over all length, with a 13 inch (330 mm) grip and a 42 inch (1 m) blade. Fairly uniform in style, the sword was set with a wheel pommel often capped by a crescent shaped nut and a guard with straight, down-sloping arms ending in quatrefoils and languets running down the center of the blade from the guard.

The second, later, sword to be so designated was a one-handed basket-hilted broadsword popular with Scottish troops in the 18th and 19th centuries. The basket was designed to protect the hand in combat. The latter form of claymore can be seen in some forms of Scottish traditional dance.

{{Wikipedia|Claymore}}

===Images===

Category talk:Attack items

2006-02-15T07:54:50Z

Nick Roberts: Can someone check and answer this please?

What is up with this? Can someone please explain to me what the 0-4 thing is?--[[User:Nick Roberts|Nick Roberts]] 02:54, 15 Feb 2006 (EST)

Category:Tools

2006-02-15T07:53:03Z

Nick Roberts: /* Tool List */ - list is organised alphabetically, not as they appear in game

At the moment most of the tools data is kept on [[Tools]]. Editors are planning to move it into independent pages, which will be listed here.

==Tool List==
Click on the 'category' tab at the top of the page to access the list of types of tools that can be made.

[[Category: Manufacturing]]

Tools

2006-02-15T07:52:07Z

Nick Roberts: All of this was already translated to tools category, no work on my part necessary. Added redirect.

#REDIRECT [[:Category:Tools]]

Tools

2006-02-15T07:49:53Z

Nick Roberts:

Tools

2006-02-15T07:42:45Z

Nick Roberts:

Page is to be found at [[category:tools]].. this page is in the process of being dismantled. Bear with me. --Nick

===Iron chisel===
[[Iron chisel]] 

Materials Required: 30g Wood, 100g Iron 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Manufacture: Many items -- mostly furniture and weapons 
===Bronze chisel===
[[Bronze chisel]] 

Materials Required: 30g Wood, 10g Bronze 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Manufacture: Many items -- mostly furniture and weapons 
===Cooking stone===
[[Cooking stone]] 

Materials Required: 250g Stone 
Tools Required: 
Uses: 0.1 
Uses: Baking Pancakes (with small pit) 
===Crowbar===
[[Crowbar]] 

Materials Required: 215g Steel 
Tools Required: Hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 2 
Uses: Breaking locks... 
===Doughroller===
[[Doughroller]] 

Materials Required: 200g Wood 
Tools Required: Chisel, Hammer, Carving Knife 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Making Pastry Dough (with kitchen table) 

===Steel drawknife===
[[Steel drawknife]] 

Materials Required: 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 0.5 
Uses: Unknown. Requires Steel Drawknife Blade and Drawknife Handle (x2) to make. 
===Dung-fork===
[[Dung-fork]] 

Materials Required: 500g Wood, 175g Iron 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1.2 
Uses: Gather: Potatoes, Carrots. Can also be used as a weapon 
===File===
[[File]] 

Materials Required: 50g Wood, 110g Steel 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 2 
Uses: Manufacture: Oil Derrick, Needle and Scissors 
===Fishing pole===
[[Fishing pole]] 

Materials Required: 300g Wood, 25g Iron 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Unknown 
===Fishing spear===
[[Fishing spear]] 

Materials Required: 125g Wood 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Unknown 
===Steel flatter===
[[Steel flatter]] 

Materials Required: 65g Wood, 45g Steel 
Tools Required: Sledgehammer 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Manufacture: Iron bucket, blades, hilts, dagger, and asparagus harvest knife 
===Bronze flatter===
[[Bronze flatter]] 

Materials Required: 65g Wood, 45g Bronze 
Tools Required: Sledgehammer 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Manufacture: Iron bucket, blades, hilts, dagger and asparagus harvest knife 
===Fork spanner===
[[Fork spanner]] 

Materials Required: 2005 Iron, 25g rubber 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1.5 
Uses: Unknown 
===Steel froe===
[[Steel froe]] 

Materials Required: 
Tools Required: Hammer 
Uses: 0.5 
Uses: Unknown. Requires Steel Froe Head and Small Wooden Shaft to make. 
===Froe club===
[[Froe club]] 

Materials Required: Small Log 
Tools Required: Adze 
Construction Time (Days): 2 
Uses: Unknown. Requires Small Log to make. 
===Bone fur scraper===
[[Bone fur scraper]] 

Materials Required: 80g Large Bones 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Unknown 
===Gas valve===
[[Gas valve]] 

Materials Required: 80g Iron 
Tools Required: Hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Speeds up gathering gas. 

===Grinder===
[[Grinder]] 
'''This information is not reliable.'''

Materials Required: 130g Iron, 150g Steel, 300g Stone 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 5 
Uses: Unknown 

===Hammer===
[[Hammer]] 

Materials Required: 65g Wood, 40g Steel 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Manufacture: Many things - a very useful tool 
===Stone hammer===
[[Stone hammer]] 

Materials Required: 65g Wood, 50g Stone 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 2 
Uses: Manufacture: Many things - a very useful tool 
===Steel hatchet===
[[Steel hatchet]] 

Materials Required: 
Tools Required: 
Uses: 0.5 
Uses: Unknown. Requires Steel Hatchet Head and Small Wooden Shaft to make. 
===Hide scraper===
[[Hide scraper]] 

Materials Required: 200g Wood, 100g Stone, 1005 Iron 
Tools Required: Hammer, Bodkin 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Used to be for making a hide cloak, which is no longer available. 

===Ice cream crank===
[[Ice cream crank]]

===Improved wheelbarrow===
[[Improved wheelbarrow]] 

Materials Required: 200g Wood, 500g Steel, 50g Iron, 100g Rubber 
Tools Required: Hammer, Screwdriver 
Construction Time (Days): 4 
Uses: Unknown 
===Knife===
[[Knife]] 

Materials Required: 30g Wood, 30g Steel 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 2 
Uses: Manufacture: many items of many varieties. Gather: bananas, apples, grapes 
===Bone knife===
[[Bone knife]] 

Materials Required: 100g Small bones 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Manufacture: Many items of many varieties. Gather: bananas, apples, grapes 
===Knitting needles===
[[Knitting needles]] 

Materials Required: 25g Iron 
Tools Required: 
Uses: 0.5 
Uses: Unknown 
===Wooden knitting needles===
[[Wooden knitting needles]] 

Materials Required: 100g Wood 
Tools Required: knife 
Construction Time: 0.75 
Uses: Unknown 

===Makisu===
[[Makisu]] 

Materials Required: 100g Wood 
Tools Required: Mallet 
Construction Time: 0.25 
Uses: Making Sushi (with kitchen table) 

===Mallet===
[[Mallet]] 

Materials Required: 150g wood 
Tools Required: Carving Knife 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Manufacture: wooden bowl, rocking chair, small sharpening block and makisu 
===Needle===
[[Needle]] 

Materials Required: 10g Iron 
Tools Required: File 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Manufacture: Futon, Apothecary Kit, pair of bellows, most clothes and some jewellery 
===Bone needle===
[[Bone needle]] 

Materials Required: 20g small bones 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Manufacture: Futon, Apothecary Kit, pair of bellows, most clothes and some jewellery 
===Oil pump===
[[Oil pump]] 

Materials Required: 550g steel, 400g Iron, 75g rubber 
Tools Required: Screwdriver, hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 2.5 
Uses: Speeds up gathering [[Oil]] 

===Steel peavey===
[[Steel peavey]] 

Materials Required: 
Tools Required: Hammer 
Construction Time: 0.5 
Uses: Unknown. Requires Steel Peavey Head and Large Wooden Shaft to make. 

===Steel peen hammer===
[[Steel peen hammer]] 

Materials Required: 65g Wood, 45g steel 
Tools Required: Hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Manufacture: Many items - mostly weapons 
===Bronze peen hammer===
[[Bronze peen hammer]] 

Materials Required: 65g wood, 45g bronze 
Tools Required: Hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Manufacture: Many items - mostly weapons 
===Pickaxe===
[[Pickaxe]] 

Materials Required: 400g wood, 150g steel 
Tools Required: Hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Gather: Stone, diamonds, copper, nickel, zinc, coal 
===Pincers===
[[Pincers]] 

Materials Required: 50g Iron, 15g steel 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Manufacture: Many items - some vehicles 
===Planer===
[[Planer]] 

Materials Required: 50g wood, 25g iron, 10g steel, 
Tools Required: screwdriver, hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 2 
Uses: Manufacture: Many itmes - mostly furniture 
===Pair of pliers===
[[Pair of pliers]] 

Materials Required: 50g iron, 15g steel 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Unknown 

===Reamer===
[[Reamer]] 

Materials Required: 100g steel, 10g cobalt 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 3 
Uses: Unknown 
===Rubber tapping knife===
[[Rubber tapping knife]] 

Materials Required: 300g Steel 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1.5 
Uses: Gather: rubber, maple sap 
===Saw===
[[Saw]] 
Materials Required: 30g Iron, 70g Steel 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1.5 
Uses: Unknown 

===Diamond tipped scepter===
[[Diamond tipped scepter]]

Materials Required: 200g [[gold]], 25g [[silver]], 20g [[diamonds]] 
Tools Required: {{hammer}} 
Construction Time (Days): 3 
Gather: [[nuts]] 

===Scissors===
[[Scissors]] 
Materials Required: 50g Iron 
Tools Required: Hammer, Screwdriver, File 
Construction Time: 0.5 
Uses: Manufacture: Apothecary Kit, Futon, many clothes 

===Screwdriver===
[[Screwdriver]] 

Materials Required: 60g Iron 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Manufacture: many items -- almost all vehicles and many weapons, machines, etc -- Locks, especially. 
===Scythe===
[[Scythe]] 

Materials Required: 260g Wood, 200g Steel 
Tools Required: Hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 1.5 
Uses: Unknown (Gathering Wheat) 
===Seal===
[[Seal]] 

Materials Required: 120g iron, 25g nickel, 75g wood 
Tools Required: hammer, Chisel 
Construction Time (Days): 4 
Uses: Unknown 
===Server===
[[Server]] 

Materials Required: 30g Wood 
Tools Required: Knife 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Making [[bowstring|bowstrings]] 
===Steel set hammer===
[[Steel set hammer]] 

Materials Required: 65g wood, 40g steel 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Manufacture: Dagger, hilts, blades 
===Bronze set hammer===
[[Bronze set hammer]] 

Materials Required: 65g wood, 40g Bronze 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Manufacture: dagger, hilts, blades 
===Shovel===
[[Shovel]] 

Materials Required: 500g wood, 200g iron 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Manufacture: Mudhole, small firepit, roads. Gather: Sand, spinach, onions, asparagus, clay, limestone 
===Sickle===
[[Sickle]] 

Materials Required: 450g Wood, 250g Iron 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Gather: Barley, wheat 

===Single jack===
[[Single jack]] 

Materials Required: 80g Wood, 60g steel 
Tools Required: Hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Unknown 
===Sledgehammer===
[[Sledgehammer]] 

Materials Required: 90g Wood, 80g Stone 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 2 
Uses: Making many tools and weapons, and crushing hematite (with stone table) 
===Small stone pot===
[[Small stone pot]] 

Materials Required: 300g stone 
Tools Required: Chisel, Hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Cooking Meat (with small fire pit and fire place 
===Small oil pump===
[[Small oil pump]] 
Materials Required: 250g Steel, 250g iron, 50g rubber 
Tools Required: Screwdriver, hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 1.5 
Uses: Speeds up gathering [[Oil]] 

===Soldering iron===
[[Soldering iron]] 

Materials Required: 125g steel, 35g iron, 10g cobalt, 110g rubber 
Tools Required: Hammer, screwdriver 
Construction Time (Days): 3.75 
Uses: Manufacture: Jewelry, clothing 

===Stick===
[[Stick]] 

Materials Required: 50g Wood 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time: 0.5 
Uses: Manufacture: Primitive Bow, Collecting Nuts 

===Stone ingot===
[[Stone ingot]] 

Materials Required: 75g Stone 
Tools Required: Hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Smelting Bronze, construction of something else 
===Stone pot===
[[Stone pot]] 

Materials Required: 500g Stone 
Tools Required: Chisel, Hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 2 
Uses: Cooking Meat (in a firepit or fireplace), Boiling eggs (in a firepit) 

===Tongs===
[[Tongs]] 

Materials Required: 155g Iron 
Tools Required: Hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 1.375 
Uses: Manufacture: Asparagus Harvest Knife 
===Wooden trowel===
[[Wooden trowel]] 

Materials Required: 50g Wood, 40g Iron 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Manufacture: Many items - most buildings and some larger machines 
===Iron trowel===
[[Iron trowel]] 

Materials Required: 110g Iron 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 2.5 
Uses: Manufacture: Many items - most buildings and some larger machines 

===Vacuum tube mould===
[[Vacuum tube mould]]

===Walking stick===
[[Walking stick]] 

Materials Required: 450g wood 
Tools Required: knife, hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 2 
Uses: Collecting [[nuts]] 

===Wheelbarrow===
[[Wheelbarrow]] 

Materials Required: 800g wood, 50g iron, 50g rubber 
Tools Required: hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 2 
Uses: Speeds up improving roads, or at least used to. 

===Whisk===
[[Whisk]] 

Materials Required: 350g Iron 
Tools Required: Screwdriver, Pincers, Hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Unknown. 

===Wood saw===
[[Wood saw]] 

Materials Required: 80g Iron, 65g Wood 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 2.25 
Uses: Unkown 
===Wooden bowl===
[[Wooden bowl]] 

Materials Required: 150g Wood 
Tools Required: Chisel, Mallet 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Making Sushi and pastry dough (with kitchen table) and baking cookies 
===Wrench===
[[Wrench]] 

Materials Required: 150g Iron, 75g Steel 
Tools Required: Screwdriver, Hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Manufacture: Motorcycle frames and motorcycles and oil derrick

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Tools

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This page will be dismantled and the contents moved to individual pages as soon as the editors get around to it. Those pages can be found through [[:Category:Tools]].

==Preamble==
Originally a cut and paste from in-game...

This list is a little out of date. If you find something you want to add, please insert it. If anyone can think of a better way of organising this (ie by materials involved, purpose, whatever), go for it.

==Tool List==

===3/4 axe===
[[3/4 axe]] 
Materials Required: 300g wood, 115g steel 
Tools Required: hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Woodcutting 
===Adze===
[[Adze]] 
Materials Required: 400g wood, 150g stone 
Tools Required: hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Used in making some furniture 
===Asparagus harvest knife===
[[Asparagus harvest knife]] 
Materials Required: 130g steel 
Tools Required: peen hammer, flatter, tongs 
Construction Time (Days): 3 
Uses: Most efficient tool for gathering asparagus 
===Axe===
[[Axe]] 
Materials Required: 400g wood, 150g Steel 
Tools Required: hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Gather: Wood 
===Pair of bellows===
[[Pair of bellows]] 
Materials Required: 750g wood, 500g Leather 
Tools Required: Needle, hammer, knife 
Construction Time (Days): 2 
Uses: Manufacturing steel (with smelting furnace 
===Big stone pot===
[[Big stone pot]] 
Materials Required: 900g Stone 
Tools Required: Chisel, Hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 3 
Uses: Cooking Meat (with small fire pit and fireplace 
===Bodkin===
[[Bodkin]] 

Materials Required: 50g Iron, 50g Wood 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Manufacture: Hide Scraper & Apothecary Kit 
===Bow square===
[[Bow square]] 

Materials Required: 15g Wood 
Tools Required: knife 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Manufacture: bows 
===Brick mould===
[[Brick mould]] 

Materials Required: 380g Stone 
Tools Required: Chisel, Hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Unknown 
===Broom===
[[Broom]] 

Materials Required: 500g Wood 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1.3 
Uses: Unknown 
===Iron carving knife===
[[Iron carving knife]] 

Materials Required: 40g Wood, 85g Iron 
Tools Required: Hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Manufacture: Dough Roller, Wooden Bucket and Mallet 
===Bronze carving knife===
[[Bronze carving knife]] 

Materials Required: 40g Wood, 85g Bronze 
Tools Required: Hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Manufacture: Dough Roller, Wooden Bucket and Mallet 
===Iron chisel===
[[Iron chisel]] 

Materials Required: 30g Wood, 100g Iron 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Manufacture: Many items -- mostly furniture and weapons 
===Bronze chisel===
[[Bronze chisel]] 

Materials Required: 30g Wood, 10g Bronze 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Manufacture: Many items -- mostly furniture and weapons 
===Cooking stone===
[[Cooking stone]] 

Materials Required: 250g Stone 
Tools Required: 
Uses: 0.1 
Uses: Baking Pancakes (with small pit) 
===Crowbar===
[[Crowbar]] 

Materials Required: 215g Steel 
Tools Required: Hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 2 
Uses: Breaking locks... 
===Doughroller===
[[Doughroller]] 

Materials Required: 200g Wood 
Tools Required: Chisel, Hammer, Carving Knife 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Making Pastry Dough (with kitchen table) 

===Steel drawknife===
[[Steel drawknife]] 

Materials Required: 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 0.5 
Uses: Unknown. Requires Steel Drawknife Blade and Drawknife Handle (x2) to make. 
===Dung-fork===
[[Dung-fork]] 

Materials Required: 500g Wood, 175g Iron 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1.2 
Uses: Gather: Potatoes, Carrots. Can also be used as a weapon 
===File===
[[File]] 

Materials Required: 50g Wood, 110g Steel 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 2 
Uses: Manufacture: Oil Derrick, Needle and Scissors 
===Fishing pole===
[[Fishing pole]] 

Materials Required: 300g Wood, 25g Iron 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Unknown 
===Fishing spear===
[[Fishing spear]] 

Materials Required: 125g Wood 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Unknown 
===Steel flatter===
[[Steel flatter]] 

Materials Required: 65g Wood, 45g Steel 
Tools Required: Sledgehammer 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Manufacture: Iron bucket, blades, hilts, dagger, and asparagus harvest knife 
===Bronze flatter===
[[Bronze flatter]] 

Materials Required: 65g Wood, 45g Bronze 
Tools Required: Sledgehammer 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Manufacture: Iron bucket, blades, hilts, dagger and asparagus harvest knife 
===Fork spanner===
[[Fork spanner]] 

Materials Required: 2005 Iron, 25g rubber 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1.5 
Uses: Unknown 
===Steel froe===
[[Steel froe]] 

Materials Required: 
Tools Required: Hammer 
Uses: 0.5 
Uses: Unknown. Requires Steel Froe Head and Small Wooden Shaft to make. 
===Froe club===
[[Froe club]] 

Materials Required: Small Log 
Tools Required: Adze 
Construction Time (Days): 2 
Uses: Unknown. Requires Small Log to make. 
===Bone fur scraper===
[[Bone fur scraper]] 

Materials Required: 80g Large Bones 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Unknown 
===Gas valve===
[[Gas valve]] 

Materials Required: 80g Iron 
Tools Required: Hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Unknown 
===Hand glass grinder===
[[Hand glass grinder]] 

Materials Required: 130g Iron, 150g Steel, 300g Stone 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 5 
Uses: Unknown 
===Hammer===
[[Hammer]] 

Materials Required: 65g Wood, 40g Steel 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Manufacture: Many things - a very useful tool 
===Stone hammer===
[[Stone hammer]] 

Materials Required: 65g Wood, 50g Stone 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 2 
Uses: Manufacture: Many things - a very useful tool 
===Steel hatchet===
[[Steel hatchet]] 

Materials Required: 
Tools Required: 
Uses: 0.5 
Uses: Unknown. Requires Steel Hatchet Head and Small Wooden Shaft to make. 
===Hide scraper===
[[Hide scraper]] 

Materials Required: 200g Wood, 100g Stone, 1005 Iron 
Tools Required: Hammer, Bodkin 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Unknown 
===Improved wheelbarrow===
[[Improved wheelbarrow]] 

Materials Required: 200g Wood, 500g Steel, 50g Iron, 100g Rubber 
Tools Required: Hammer, Screwdriver 
Construction Time (Days): 4 
Uses: Unknown 
===Knife===
[[Knife]] 

Materials Required: 30g Wood, 30g Steel 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 2 
Uses: Manufacture: many items of many varieties. Gather: bananas, apples, grapes 
===Bone knife===
[[Bone knife]] 

Materials Required: 100g Small bones 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Manufacture: Many items of many varieties. Gather: bananas, apples, grapes 
===Knitting needles===
[[Knitting needles]] 

Materials Required: 25g Iron 
Tools Required: 
Uses: 0.5 
Uses: Unknown 
===Wooden knitting needles===
[[Wooden knitting needles]] 

Materials Required: 100g Wood 
Tools Required: knife 
Construction Time: 0.75 
Uses: Unknown 

===Makisu===
[[Makisu]] 

Materials Required: 100g Wood 
Tools Required: Mallet 
Construction Time: 0.25 
Uses: Making Sushi (with kitchen table) 

===Mallet===
[[Mallet]] 

Materials Required: 150g wood 
Tools Required: Carving Knife 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Manufacture: wooden bowl, rocking chair, small sharpening block and makisu 
===Needle===
[[Needle]] 

Materials Required: 10g Iron 
Tools Required: File 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Manufacture: Futon, Apothecary Kit, pair of bellows, most clothes and some jewellery 
===Bone needle===
[[Bone needle]] 

Materials Required: 20g small bones 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Manufacture: Futon, Apothecary Kit, pair of bellows, most clothes and some jewellery 
===Oil pump===
[[Oil pump]] 

Materials Required: 550g steel, 400g Iron, 75g rubber 
Tools Required: Screwdriver, hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 2.5 
Uses: Unknown 
===Steel peavey===
[[Steel peavey]] 

Materials Required: 
Tools Required: Hammer 
Construction Time: 0.5 
Uses: Unknown. Requires Steel Peavey Head and Large Wooden Shaft to make. 

===Steel peen hammer===
[[Steel peen hammer]] 

Materials Required: 65g Wood, 45g steel 
Tools Required: Hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Manufacture: Many items - mostly weapons 
===Bronze peen hammer===
[[Bronze peen hammer]] 

Materials Required: 65g wood, 45g bronze 
Tools Required: Hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Manufacture: Many items - mostly weapons 
===Pickaxe===
[[Pickaxe]] 

Materials Required: 400g wood, 150g steel 
Tools Required: Hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Gather: Stone, diamonds, copper, nickel, zinc, coal 
===Pincers===
[[Pincers]] 

Materials Required: 50g Iron, 15g steel 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Manufacture: Many items - some vehicles 
===Planer===
[[Planer]] 

Materials Required: 50g wood, 25g iron, 10g steel, 
Tools Required: screwdriver, hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 2 
Uses: Manufacture: Many itmes - mostly furniture 
===Pliers===
[[Pliers]] 

Materials Required: 50g iron, 15g steel 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Unknown 
===Reamer===
[[Reamer]] 

Materials Required: 100g steel, 10g cobalt 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 3 
Uses: Unknown 
===Rubber tapping knife===
[[Rubber tapping knife]] 

Materials Required: 300g Steel 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1.5 
Uses: Gather: rubber, maple sap 
===Saw===
[[Saw]] 
Materials Required: 30g Iron, 70g Steel 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1.5 
Uses: Unknown 
===Scissors===
[[Scissors]] 
Materials Required: 50g Iron 
Tools Required: Hammer, Screwdriver, File 
Construction Time: 0.5 
Uses: Manufacture: Apothecary Kit, Futon, many clothes 

===Screwdriver===
[[Screwdriver]] 

Materials Required: 60g Iron 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Manufacture: many items -- almost all vehicles and many weapons, machines, etc -- Locks, especially. 
===Scythe===
[[Scythe]] 

Materials Required: 260g Wood, 200g Steel 
Tools Required: Hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 1.5 
Uses: Unknown (Gathering Wheat) 
===Seal===
[[Seal]] 

Materials Required: 120g iron, 25g nickel, 75g wood 
Tools Required: hammer, Chisel 
Construction Time (Days): 4 
Uses: Unknown 
===Server===
[[Server]] 

Materials Required: 30g Wood 
Tools Required: Knife 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Making [[bowstring|bowstrings]] 
===Steel set hammer===
[[Steel set hammer]] 

Materials Required: 65g wood, 40g steel 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Manufacture: Dagger, hilts, blades 
===Bronze set hammer===
[[Bronze set hammer]] 

Materials Required: 65g wood, 40g Bronze 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Manufacture: dagger, hilts, blades 
===Shovel===
[[Shovel]] 

Materials Required: 500g wood, 200g iron 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Manufacture: Mudhole, small firepit, roads. Gather: Sand, spinach, onions, asparagus, clay, limestone 
===Sickle===
[[Sickle]] 

Materials Required: 450g Wood, 250g Iron 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Gather: Barley 
===Single jack===
[[Single jack]] 

Materials Required: 80g Wood, 60g steel 
Tools Required: Hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Unknown 
===Sledgehammer===
[[Sledgehammer]] 

Materials Required: 90g Wood, 80g Stone 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 2 
Uses: Making many tools and weapons, and crushing hematite (with stone table) 
===Small stone pot===
[[Small stone pot]] 

Materials Required: 300g stone 
Tools Required: Chisel, Hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Cooking Meat (with small fire pit and fire place 
===Small oil pump===
[[Small oil pump]] 
Materials Required: 250g Steel, 250g iron, 50g rubber 
Tools Required: Screwdriver, hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 1.5 
Uses: Unknown 
===Soldering iron===
[[Soldering iron]] 

Materials Required: 125g steel, 35g iron, 10g cobalt, 110g rubber 
Tools Required: Hammer, screwdriver 
Construction Time (Days): 3.75 
Uses: Manufacture: Jewelry, clothing 

===Stick===
[[Stick]] 

Materials Required: 50g Wood 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time: 0.5 
Uses: Manufacture: Primitive Bow, Collecting Nuts 

===Stone ingot===
[[Stone ingot]] 

Materials Required: 75g Stone 
Tools Required: Hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Smelting Bronze, construction of something else 
===Stone pot===
[[Stone pot]] 

Materials Required: 500g Stone 
Tools Required: Chisel, Hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 2 
Uses: Cooking Meat (with small fire place 
===Tongs===
[[Tongs]] 

Materials Required: 155g Iron 
Tools Required: Hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 1.375 
Uses: Manufacture: Asparagus Harvest Knife 
===Wooden trowel===
[[Wooden trowel]] 

Materials Required: 50g Wood, 40g Iron 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Manufacture: Many items - most buildings and some larger machines 
===Iron trowel===
[[Iron trowel]] 

Materials Required: 110g Iron 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 2.5 
Uses: Manufacture: Many items - most buildings and some larger machines 
===Walking stick===
[[Walking stick]] 

Materials Required: 450g wood 
Tools Required: knife, hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 2 
Uses: Collecting [[nuts]] 

===Wheelbarrow===
[[Wheelbarrow]] 

Materials Required: 800g wood, 50g iron, 50g rubber 
Tools Required: hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 2 
Uses: unknown 
===Whisk===
[[Whisk]] 

Materials Required: 350g Iron 
Tools Required: Screwdriver, Pincers, Hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Unknown 
===Wood saw===
[[Wood saw]] 

Materials Required: 80g Iron, 65g Wood 
Tools Required: 
Construction Time (Days): 2.25 
Uses: Unkown 
===Wooden bowl===
[[Wooden bowl]] 

Materials Required: 150g Wood 
Tools Required: Chisel, Mallet 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Making Sushi and pastry dough (with kitchen table) and baking cookies 
===Wrench===
[[Wrench]] 

Materials Required: 150g Iron, 75g Steel 
Tools Required: Screwdriver, Hammer 
Construction Time (Days): 1 
Uses: Manufacture: Motorcycle frames and motorcycles and oil derrick

Coin press

2005-12-13T05:38:25Z

Nick Roberts: I don't believe we need pages for each type of coin... let's just have them link to their appropriate metals

A '''coin press''' is used to make coins. All coins produced by a '''coin press''' are inscribed with the name of the press, which is set when the press is built.

==Requirements==

'''Resources required'''
* 4000 grams of [[stone]]
* 300 grams of [[iron]]

'''Labour required'''
* 8 days

'''Tools required'''
* [[trowel]]

A coin press can only be built inside a [[building]].

==Manufacturing coins==

The coin press operates differently from most machinery. You can choose a metal to make the coins out of and a number of coins to make (maximum of 20). Each coin is made of the input metal and imprinted with the name of the press.

{| border="1" cellpadding="3"
|+Coin production data (per coin)
|-
! Coin type !! Amount of metal used !! Project length
|-
| [[Gold]] || 10 grams || 0.2 days
|-
| [[Silver]] || 10 grams || 0.2 days
|-
| [[Copper]] || 10 grams || 0.2 days
|-
| [[Nickel]] || 10 grams || 0.2 days
|-
| [[Iron]] || 10 grams || 0.2 days
|-
| [[Steel]] || 10 grams || 0.2 days
|}

[[Category:Machinery]]

Oil

2005-12-13T05:36:43Z

Nick Roberts:

Used for improving roads.

<div class="notice metadata" id="stub" style="clear:both;">''This article is a stub. You can help by [{{SERVER}}{{localurl:{{NAMESPACE}}:{{PAGENAME}}|action=edit}} expanding it]. ''</div>[[Category:Stubs]]

[[Category:Resources]]

Big stone pot

2005-10-24T09:31:29Z

Nick Roberts:

==Requirements==

'''Resources Required'''
* 900 grams of [[stone]]

'''Labour Required'''
* 3 days

'''Tools Required'''
* [[chisel]]
* [[hammer]]

[[Category: Tools]]

Wheelbarrom

2005-10-24T09:29:57Z

Nick Roberts:

#REDIRECT [[wheelbarrow]]

Big stone pot

2005-10-24T09:29:11Z

Nick Roberts:

Object: Big stone pot

Days needed: 3
Raw materials needed: 900 grams of stone

Objects:
Tools needed: chisel
hammer

[[Category: Tools]]

Big stone pot

2005-10-24T09:28:35Z

Nick Roberts:

{inc1}

[[Category: Tools]]

Small sharpening block

2005-10-24T09:25:33Z

Nick Roberts: /* Requirements */

==Requirements==

'''Resources required'''
* 300 grams of [[stone]]

'''Labour required'''
* 2 days

'''Tools required'''
* [[mallet]]
* [[chisel]]

A small sharpening block can only be built inside a [[building]].

==Enables==
*{{inc1}}

[[Category:Machinery]]

Shaving horse

2005-10-24T09:24:26Z

Nick Roberts: /* Requirements */

{{incomplete|Needs all project information.}}

==Requirements==

'''Resources required'''
* 6 [[small log]]s

'''Labour required'''
* 1 day

'''Tools needed'''
* [[hatchet]]

A shaving horse can be built anywhere.

==Projects==

'''Maximum workers''': {{inc3}}

----

[[Category:Machinery]]

Stone mortar and pestle

2005-10-24T09:23:48Z

Nick Roberts: /* Requirements */

{{incomplete|Needs all project information.}}

==Requirements==

'''Resources required'''
* 450 grams of [[stone]]

'''Labour required'''
* 1 day

'''Tools required'''
* [[chisel]]
* [[hammer]]

A mortar and pestle can be built anywhere.

==Projects==

'''Maximum workers''': {{inc3}}

----

[[Category:Machinery]]

Lathe with a steel blade

2005-10-24T09:22:39Z

Nick Roberts: /* Requirements */

{{incomplete|Needs all project information.}}

==Requirements==

'''Resources required'''
* 6 [[medium log]]s
* [[steel lathe blade]]

'''Labour required'''
* 1 day

'''Tools required'''
* [[hatchet]]

A lathe with a steel blade can be built anywhere.

==Projects==

'''Maximum workers''': {{inc3}}

----

[[Category: Machinery]]

Current events

2005-10-24T09:20:59Z

Nick Roberts: /* What's going on */

==What's going on==
===Interchangability===
For instance, iron or [[bronze anvil]]... they both enable the same sort of projects. Perhaps we should have one consolidated anvil page, with info about both? Same would go for knives and hammers. Thoughts? --[[User:Nick Roberts|Nick Roberts]] 05:20, 24 Oct 2005 (EDT)

===Templates===
I've created a couple of templates for editor use: [[Template:Stub]] and [[Template:Rewrite]]. [[Template:Stub]] is to be used on pages that are missing large amounts of important information - an example is [[Broom]]. [[Template:Rewrite]] is to be used on less severe cases of missing information, or on pages that merely need rewriting - an example is [[Alumina refiner]]. [[User:Sho|Sho]] 15:21, 24 Sep 2005 (EDT)
*Some changes have been made to the templates. From now on all editor templates will be listed on [[Help:Templates]]. [[User:Sho|Sho]] 14:42, 13 Oct 2005 (EDT)

===Weapons category===
I've just filled in the entire weapons category from info found IC. Please feel free to check it out, spell check, format etc. Just make sure it's consistent as all the pages now have consistent IC info.
[[User:Kabl00ey|Kabl00ey]] 04:37, 4 Oct 2005 (EDT)
*We should decide on a template for weapons, among other things. I'm thinking of listing the requirements the same way on pretty much every object type. --[[User:Nick Roberts|Nick Roberts]] 06:33, 15 Oct 2005 (EDT)
**All for it. Go ahead and format a weapon, and if it's good we'll slap the format onto all the weapons and tools. The requirements section should be the same for both, and other properties (weight, visibility) are similar - just that tools should have a "uses" section where weapons have "effectiveness." [[User:Sho|Sho]] 09:00, 15 Oct 2005 (EDT)
***Once again we come to the "what's the appropriate format" debate. The weapons category right now just reflects the IC information, and is displayed similarly. The only exception to this is the latter weapons (I started from the end, I have no idea why) where I've been formating for clarity, adding images and OOC info. [[User:Kabl00ey|Kabl00ey]] 19:34, 16 Oct 2005 (EDT)

===Machinery===
[[:Category:Machinery]] is finally done. Many pages are lacking information, though. [[User:Sho|Sho]] 14:42, 13 Oct 2005 (EDT)

=== Admin ===
To be sure: [[User:Kabl00ey|Kabl00ey]] is now a full admin on the Wiki, so contact him for any admin interference that is needed. As stated before, most of the moderation of the Wiki will be left to the players at large and will depend on self-organisation, but where admin privileges are needed, or where there are serious conflicts that do not seem to get resolved, [[User:Kabl00ey|Kabl00ey]] is in charge. He, in turn, has to follow Communications Department / general game administration policy and should create a thread in the CD forum in case of doubt.
--[[User:Jos Elkink|Jos Elkink]] 07:44, 16 Oct 2005 (EDT)

== Decisions ==

=== Language setup ===
Do you think maybe the different languages ought to have different wikis, instead of being on the same pages? --[[User:Nick Roberts|Nick Roberts]] 20:30, 12 Jul 2005 (EDT)
*I agree. --[[User:Creepyguyinblack|Creepyguyinblack]] 04:50, 13 Jul 2005 (EDT)
*I changed it. --[[User:Jos Elkink|Jos Elkink]] 05:08, 13 Jul 2005 (EDT)
*Would it be possible to make a true multi-language setup, similar to Wikipedia's? I don't know what's involved in making that work (I have a suspicion that it's not feasile here), but it's kind of annoying when half of the time [[Special:Randompage]] brings up a Polish page; also crosslinking articles is rather inelegant with the current system (no framework; also there are some pages like [[Jeep(pl)]]. [[User:Sho|Sho]]
*That would certainly be preferable... and was what I had in mind when originally making this suggestion. I don't like coming across polish articles when clicking on random page, or having search results clogged up with Polish links. --[[User:Nick Roberts|Nick Roberts]] 08:37, 15 Sep 2005 (EDT)

=== Agglomeration vs. subdivision ===

Some categories of items, such as [[tools]], have all of their elements listed on the same page. Others, such as [[resources]], have separate pages for everything. My gut instinct (as a Wikipedian) is to split everything into separate pages and use categories to tie them together (it makes it easier for people to just type what they're looking for in the search box), but I can see why we might want to keep things in big metapages - it's similar to the format found in IC guides, often the individual data aren't big enough for individual articles, and it would be loads of unrewarding data-entry grunt work. Anyone have any opinion? [[User:Sho|Sho]]

* The category system ([[tools]]) is so much clearer and easier to access the information you're looking for, so whilst I understand the Wikipedian urge to split everything, I think that the category system still provides easily accessible information. I cry a little on the inside when trying to find stuff on the seperate system ([[resources]]) - segregating the data, whilst easier to categorise and search, adds unnecessary pain in wading through links and editing pages. [[User:Kabl00ey|Kabl00ey]] 00:07, 17 Sep 2005 (EDT)
** With proper use of categories, I think splitting makes things easier. In Firefox, I can use quicksearches to instantly pull up a page on anything that has its own page, without clicking on any links. I can't do that with a monolithic megapage. In the same way, it's easier to just punch the thing you're looking for into the search box - one click - with split pages. Categories can bring the pages back together anyway. [[User:Sho|Sho]] 00:35, 17 Sep 2005 (EDT)
*** I agree with Sho, the category system that was used for the resources worked great. I think a similar system should be used for machines, buildings, vehicles, tools, et al. --[[User:Nick Roberts|Nick Roberts]] 08:53, 18 Sep 2005 (EDT)
****I'm surprised the tool set-up has lasted so long, it was only a copy/paste from an ingame guide I'd made - it looks ugly here. I'd like a segregated set-up there, but not for clothing I don't think, as that'd be no more of a copy of the in-game set-up - I've started discussion on clothing about how I'd like to go about finishing that section.--[[User:Hallucinatingfarmer|Hallucinatingfarmer]] 18:13, 22 Sep 2005 (EDT)
*****Yeah, everyone agrees with that HF. It just hasn't been gotten to yet. --[[User:Nick Roberts|Nick Roberts]] 13:49, 27 Sep 2005 (EDT)

===Resource Department disclosure===
Long-standing question: Since the repeal of the "find out in game" rule (or FOIG), should the RD be allowed/required to release to the wiki all information that can be discovered in-game?

Since I expect some long-winded responses to this that won't fit in a nested list format (or maybe that's just me), please post responses as subsections. [[User:Sho|Sho]] 22:49, 11 Oct 2005 (EDT)

====Yes====

The purpose of FOIG's repeal was to remove the effect of certain characters having advantages over other characters because their players knew more than other players. If we restrict RD's release of information that could be discovered IC, it's possible for that situation to arise again - a character gains an informational advantage because his player tried something, with a different character, that no player has posted on the wiki about. There are two solutions to this problem. One is to require that all players wiki any information they obtain in-game as soon as they get it. This is unenforceable and silly. The other is to have RD wiki all obtainable information to level the playing field in advance.

Another reason is, simply, efficiency. Generally those who oppose full disclosure argue that players should work to find obtainable data on their own. The problem is that obtainable data is often not at all easy to obtain. Some data, such as the amounts of resources certain animals drop when hunted, is precisely obtainable, but only if characters spend significant resources to discover them. Do we really need to have a situation where players have to use their characters and significant amounts of their own time to obtain information that could be retrieved in under a minute by RD staff?

There is also some precedent. Resource gathering rates are arguably something that realistically should not be displayed as explicitly as they are in-game; even more so the 20% deviation in output. Building capacity was freely released by RD (even vehicle capacities, which RD is refusing to release, is being witheld not because they should not be released in general, but because they will soon be outdated), even though it is an excellent example of obtainable data that would take colossal effort to discover in-game (to my knowledge no character or player had anything approaching precise values for building capacities before RD released them on the wiki).

[[User:Sho|Sho]] 22:42, 11 Oct 2005 (EDT)

*Strictly speaking RD did not release the building capacity infomation. Thses details where released by the Programming Department (ProgD). A bug was discovered which effectively disabled the maximum number of persons . Since correction of this bug generated a number of support queries , ProgD felt that publishing this information would help explain what seemed to be changes in room capacities. --[[User:Chris Johnson|Chris Johnson]] 05:20, 12 Oct 2005 (EDT)

===Disambiguation for tools===
There are many cases where projects require either or two tools, such as projects that require a [[hammer]] or a [[stone hammer]] (but display the requirement as "[[hammer]]"). How will we treat these here? I can think of two options:
#We could replace every instance of "[[hammer]]" in a project requirements list with "[[hammer]] or [[stone hammer]]."
#We could use a special page for those. For example, create the page [[Hammer (requirement)]] to explain how the hammer requirement works. If we go with this, the way in which we name these pages (and what we put on them) is up for discussion.
What ideas do people have? [[User:Sho|Sho]] 23:35, 14 Oct 2005 (EDT)

== Tasks ==

=== Admin tasks ===

==== Pages for Deletion ====
Listed on [[:Category:Delete]]

=== User tasks ===

==== "Stamp of Approval" ====
It's not clear how much of the stuff here is data from Programming or Resources Department people (and therefore probably complete and correct) and how much is contributions from players like me (and therefore likely to need verification). For example, I'm not sure how much to trust the data on the ability of certain boat types to dock to each other; I feel that it looks like some types were left out, but I can't be sure. Some way of, say, putting a stamp of approval on information would be excellent. [[User:Sho|Sho]]

* A good idea would be to add notes into the discussion pages stating the information added and from what department. Personally, I've added the information for vehicles and animals, and so should be 99.9% accurate. --[[User:Anthony|Anthony Roberts]] 22:59, 16 Aug 2005 (EDT)

====Pages needing breakdown====
*[[Tools]] must be broken up into separate [[:Category:Tools]] articles.

Current events

2005-10-23T20:34:28Z

Nick Roberts: /* Admin tasks */ - issue resolved and deleted

==What's going on==
===Templates===
I've created a couple of templates for editor use: [[Template:Stub]] and [[Template:Rewrite]]. [[Template:Stub]] is to be used on pages that are missing large amounts of important information - an example is [[Broom]]. [[Template:Rewrite]] is to be used on less severe cases of missing information, or on pages that merely need rewriting - an example is [[Alumina refiner]]. [[User:Sho|Sho]] 15:21, 24 Sep 2005 (EDT)
*Some changes have been made to the templates. From now on all editor templates will be listed on [[Help:Templates]]. [[User:Sho|Sho]] 14:42, 13 Oct 2005 (EDT)

===Weapons category===
I've just filled in the entire weapons category from info found IC. Please feel free to check it out, spell check, format etc. Just make sure it's consistent as all the pages now have consistent IC info.
[[User:Kabl00ey|Kabl00ey]] 04:37, 4 Oct 2005 (EDT)
*We should decide on a template for weapons, among other things. I'm thinking of listing the requirements the same way on pretty much every object type. --[[User:Nick Roberts|Nick Roberts]] 06:33, 15 Oct 2005 (EDT)
**All for it. Go ahead and format a weapon, and if it's good we'll slap the format onto all the weapons and tools. The requirements section should be the same for both, and other properties (weight, visibility) are similar - just that tools should have a "uses" section where weapons have "effectiveness." [[User:Sho|Sho]] 09:00, 15 Oct 2005 (EDT)
***Once again we come to the "what's the appropriate format" debate. The weapons category right now just reflects the IC information, and is displayed similarly. The only exception to this is the latter weapons (I started from the end, I have no idea why) where I've been formating for clarity, adding images and OOC info. [[User:Kabl00ey|Kabl00ey]] 19:34, 16 Oct 2005 (EDT)

===Machinery===
[[:Category:Machinery]] is finally done. Many pages are lacking information, though. [[User:Sho|Sho]] 14:42, 13 Oct 2005 (EDT)

=== Admin ===
To be sure: [[User:Kabl00ey|Kabl00ey]] is now a full admin on the Wiki, so contact him for any admin interference that is needed. As stated before, most of the moderation of the Wiki will be left to the players at large and will depend on self-organisation, but where admin privileges are needed, or where there are serious conflicts that do not seem to get resolved, [[User:Kabl00ey|Kabl00ey]] is in charge. He, in turn, has to follow Communications Department / general game administration policy and should create a thread in the CD forum in case of doubt.
--[[User:Jos Elkink|Jos Elkink]] 07:44, 16 Oct 2005 (EDT)

== Decisions ==

=== Language setup ===
Do you think maybe the different languages ought to have different wikis, instead of being on the same pages? --[[User:Nick Roberts|Nick Roberts]] 20:30, 12 Jul 2005 (EDT)
*I agree. --[[User:Creepyguyinblack|Creepyguyinblack]] 04:50, 13 Jul 2005 (EDT)
*I changed it. --[[User:Jos Elkink|Jos Elkink]] 05:08, 13 Jul 2005 (EDT)
*Would it be possible to make a true multi-language setup, similar to Wikipedia's? I don't know what's involved in making that work (I have a suspicion that it's not feasile here), but it's kind of annoying when half of the time [[Special:Randompage]] brings up a Polish page; also crosslinking articles is rather inelegant with the current system (no framework; also there are some pages like [[Jeep(pl)]]. [[User:Sho|Sho]]
*That would certainly be preferable... and was what I had in mind when originally making this suggestion. I don't like coming across polish articles when clicking on random page, or having search results clogged up with Polish links. --[[User:Nick Roberts|Nick Roberts]] 08:37, 15 Sep 2005 (EDT)

=== Agglomeration vs. subdivision ===

Some categories of items, such as [[tools]], have all of their elements listed on the same page. Others, such as [[resources]], have separate pages for everything. My gut instinct (as a Wikipedian) is to split everything into separate pages and use categories to tie them together (it makes it easier for people to just type what they're looking for in the search box), but I can see why we might want to keep things in big metapages - it's similar to the format found in IC guides, often the individual data aren't big enough for individual articles, and it would be loads of unrewarding data-entry grunt work. Anyone have any opinion? [[User:Sho|Sho]]

* The category system ([[tools]]) is so much clearer and easier to access the information you're looking for, so whilst I understand the Wikipedian urge to split everything, I think that the category system still provides easily accessible information. I cry a little on the inside when trying to find stuff on the seperate system ([[resources]]) - segregating the data, whilst easier to categorise and search, adds unnecessary pain in wading through links and editing pages. [[User:Kabl00ey|Kabl00ey]] 00:07, 17 Sep 2005 (EDT)
** With proper use of categories, I think splitting makes things easier. In Firefox, I can use quicksearches to instantly pull up a page on anything that has its own page, without clicking on any links. I can't do that with a monolithic megapage. In the same way, it's easier to just punch the thing you're looking for into the search box - one click - with split pages. Categories can bring the pages back together anyway. [[User:Sho|Sho]] 00:35, 17 Sep 2005 (EDT)
*** I agree with Sho, the category system that was used for the resources worked great. I think a similar system should be used for machines, buildings, vehicles, tools, et al. --[[User:Nick Roberts|Nick Roberts]] 08:53, 18 Sep 2005 (EDT)
****I'm surprised the tool set-up has lasted so long, it was only a copy/paste from an ingame guide I'd made - it looks ugly here. I'd like a segregated set-up there, but not for clothing I don't think, as that'd be no more of a copy of the in-game set-up - I've started discussion on clothing about how I'd like to go about finishing that section.--[[User:Hallucinatingfarmer|Hallucinatingfarmer]] 18:13, 22 Sep 2005 (EDT)
*****Yeah, everyone agrees with that HF. It just hasn't been gotten to yet. --[[User:Nick Roberts|Nick Roberts]] 13:49, 27 Sep 2005 (EDT)

===Resource Department disclosure===
Long-standing question: Since the repeal of the "find out in game" rule (or FOIG), should the RD be allowed/required to release to the wiki all information that can be discovered in-game?

Since I expect some long-winded responses to this that won't fit in a nested list format (or maybe that's just me), please post responses as subsections. [[User:Sho|Sho]] 22:49, 11 Oct 2005 (EDT)

====Yes====

The purpose of FOIG's repeal was to remove the effect of certain characters having advantages over other characters because their players knew more than other players. If we restrict RD's release of information that could be discovered IC, it's possible for that situation to arise again - a character gains an informational advantage because his player tried something, with a different character, that no player has posted on the wiki about. There are two solutions to this problem. One is to require that all players wiki any information they obtain in-game as soon as they get it. This is unenforceable and silly. The other is to have RD wiki all obtainable information to level the playing field in advance.

Another reason is, simply, efficiency. Generally those who oppose full disclosure argue that players should work to find obtainable data on their own. The problem is that obtainable data is often not at all easy to obtain. Some data, such as the amounts of resources certain animals drop when hunted, is precisely obtainable, but only if characters spend significant resources to discover them. Do we really need to have a situation where players have to use their characters and significant amounts of their own time to obtain information that could be retrieved in under a minute by RD staff?

There is also some precedent. Resource gathering rates are arguably something that realistically should not be displayed as explicitly as they are in-game; even more so the 20% deviation in output. Building capacity was freely released by RD (even vehicle capacities, which RD is refusing to release, is being witheld not because they should not be released in general, but because they will soon be outdated), even though it is an excellent example of obtainable data that would take colossal effort to discover in-game (to my knowledge no character or player had anything approaching precise values for building capacities before RD released them on the wiki).

[[User:Sho|Sho]] 22:42, 11 Oct 2005 (EDT)

*Strictly speaking RD did not release the building capacity infomation. Thses details where released by the Programming Department (ProgD). A bug was discovered which effectively disabled the maximum number of persons . Since correction of this bug generated a number of support queries , ProgD felt that publishing this information would help explain what seemed to be changes in room capacities. --[[User:Chris Johnson|Chris Johnson]] 05:20, 12 Oct 2005 (EDT)

===Disambiguation for tools===
There are many cases where projects require either or two tools, such as projects that require a [[hammer]] or a [[stone hammer]] (but display the requirement as "[[hammer]]"). How will we treat these here? I can think of two options:
#We could replace every instance of "[[hammer]]" in a project requirements list with "[[hammer]] or [[stone hammer]]."
#We could use a special page for those. For example, create the page [[Hammer (requirement)]] to explain how the hammer requirement works. If we go with this, the way in which we name these pages (and what we put on them) is up for discussion.
What ideas do people have? [[User:Sho|Sho]] 23:35, 14 Oct 2005 (EDT)

== Tasks ==

=== Admin tasks ===

==== Pages for Deletion ====
Listed on [[:Category:Delete]]

=== User tasks ===

==== "Stamp of Approval" ====
It's not clear how much of the stuff here is data from Programming or Resources Department people (and therefore probably complete and correct) and how much is contributions from players like me (and therefore likely to need verification). For example, I'm not sure how much to trust the data on the ability of certain boat types to dock to each other; I feel that it looks like some types were left out, but I can't be sure. Some way of, say, putting a stamp of approval on information would be excellent. [[User:Sho|Sho]]

* A good idea would be to add notes into the discussion pages stating the information added and from what department. Personally, I've added the information for vehicles and animals, and so should be 99.9% accurate. --[[User:Anthony|Anthony Roberts]] 22:59, 16 Aug 2005 (EDT)

====Pages needing breakdown====
*[[Tools]] must be broken up into separate [[:Category:Tools]] articles.

Current events

2005-10-20T23:07:04Z

Nick Roberts: /* Admin tasks */

==What's going on==
===Templates===
I've created a couple of templates for editor use: [[Template:Stub]] and [[Template:Rewrite]]. [[Template:Stub]] is to be used on pages that are missing large amounts of important information - an example is [[Broom]]. [[Template:Rewrite]] is to be used on less severe cases of missing information, or on pages that merely need rewriting - an example is [[Alumina refiner]]. [[User:Sho|Sho]] 15:21, 24 Sep 2005 (EDT)
*Some changes have been made to the templates. From now on all editor templates will be listed on [[Help:Templates]]. [[User:Sho|Sho]] 14:42, 13 Oct 2005 (EDT)

===Weapons category===
I've just filled in the entire weapons category from info found IC. Please feel free to check it out, spell check, format etc. Just make sure it's consistent as all the pages now have consistent IC info.
[[User:Kabl00ey|Kabl00ey]] 04:37, 4 Oct 2005 (EDT)
*We should decide on a template for weapons, among other things. I'm thinking of listing the requirements the same way on pretty much every object type. --[[User:Nick Roberts|Nick Roberts]] 06:33, 15 Oct 2005 (EDT)
**All for it. Go ahead and format a weapon, and if it's good we'll slap the format onto all the weapons and tools. The requirements section should be the same for both, and other properties (weight, visibility) are similar - just that tools should have a "uses" section where weapons have "effectiveness." [[User:Sho|Sho]] 09:00, 15 Oct 2005 (EDT)
***Once again we come to the "what's the appropriate format" debate. The weapons category right now just reflects the IC information, and is displayed similarly. The only exception to this is the latter weapons (I started from the end, I have no idea why) where I've been formating for clarity, adding images and OOC info. [[User:Kabl00ey|Kabl00ey]] 19:34, 16 Oct 2005 (EDT)

===Machinery===
[[:Category:Machinery]] is finally done. Many pages are lacking information, though. [[User:Sho|Sho]] 14:42, 13 Oct 2005 (EDT)

=== Admin ===
To be sure: [[User:Kabl00ey|Kabl00ey]] is now a full admin on the Wiki, so contact him for any admin interference that is needed. As stated before, most of the moderation of the Wiki will be left to the players at large and will depend on self-organisation, but where admin privileges are needed, or where there are serious conflicts that do not seem to get resolved, [[User:Kabl00ey|Kabl00ey]] is in charge. He, in turn, has to follow Communications Department / general game administration policy and should create a thread in the CD forum in case of doubt.
--[[User:Jos Elkink|Jos Elkink]] 07:44, 16 Oct 2005 (EDT)

== Decisions ==

=== Language setup ===
Do you think maybe the different languages ought to have different wikis, instead of being on the same pages? --[[User:Nick Roberts|Nick Roberts]] 20:30, 12 Jul 2005 (EDT)
*I agree. --[[User:Creepyguyinblack|Creepyguyinblack]] 04:50, 13 Jul 2005 (EDT)
*I changed it. --[[User:Jos Elkink|Jos Elkink]] 05:08, 13 Jul 2005 (EDT)
*Would it be possible to make a true multi-language setup, similar to Wikipedia's? I don't know what's involved in making that work (I have a suspicion that it's not feasile here), but it's kind of annoying when half of the time [[Special:Randompage]] brings up a Polish page; also crosslinking articles is rather inelegant with the current system (no framework; also there are some pages like [[Jeep(pl)]]. [[User:Sho|Sho]]
*That would certainly be preferable... and was what I had in mind when originally making this suggestion. I don't like coming across polish articles when clicking on random page, or having search results clogged up with Polish links. --[[User:Nick Roberts|Nick Roberts]] 08:37, 15 Sep 2005 (EDT)

=== Agglomeration vs. subdivision ===

Some categories of items, such as [[tools]], have all of their elements listed on the same page. Others, such as [[resources]], have separate pages for everything. My gut instinct (as a Wikipedian) is to split everything into separate pages and use categories to tie them together (it makes it easier for people to just type what they're looking for in the search box), but I can see why we might want to keep things in big metapages - it's similar to the format found in IC guides, often the individual data aren't big enough for individual articles, and it would be loads of unrewarding data-entry grunt work. Anyone have any opinion? [[User:Sho|Sho]]

* The category system ([[tools]]) is so much clearer and easier to access the information you're looking for, so whilst I understand the Wikipedian urge to split everything, I think that the category system still provides easily accessible information. I cry a little on the inside when trying to find stuff on the seperate system ([[resources]]) - segregating the data, whilst easier to categorise and search, adds unnecessary pain in wading through links and editing pages. [[User:Kabl00ey|Kabl00ey]] 00:07, 17 Sep 2005 (EDT)
** With proper use of categories, I think splitting makes things easier. In Firefox, I can use quicksearches to instantly pull up a page on anything that has its own page, without clicking on any links. I can't do that with a monolithic megapage. In the same way, it's easier to just punch the thing you're looking for into the search box - one click - with split pages. Categories can bring the pages back together anyway. [[User:Sho|Sho]] 00:35, 17 Sep 2005 (EDT)
*** I agree with Sho, the category system that was used for the resources worked great. I think a similar system should be used for machines, buildings, vehicles, tools, et al. --[[User:Nick Roberts|Nick Roberts]] 08:53, 18 Sep 2005 (EDT)
****I'm surprised the tool set-up has lasted so long, it was only a copy/paste from an ingame guide I'd made - it looks ugly here. I'd like a segregated set-up there, but not for clothing I don't think, as that'd be no more of a copy of the in-game set-up - I've started discussion on clothing about how I'd like to go about finishing that section.--[[User:Hallucinatingfarmer|Hallucinatingfarmer]] 18:13, 22 Sep 2005 (EDT)
*****Yeah, everyone agrees with that HF. It just hasn't been gotten to yet. --[[User:Nick Roberts|Nick Roberts]] 13:49, 27 Sep 2005 (EDT)

===Resource Department disclosure===
Long-standing question: Since the repeal of the "find out in game" rule (or FOIG), should the RD be allowed/required to release to the wiki all information that can be discovered in-game?

Since I expect some long-winded responses to this that won't fit in a nested list format (or maybe that's just me), please post responses as subsections. [[User:Sho|Sho]] 22:49, 11 Oct 2005 (EDT)

====Yes====

The purpose of FOIG's repeal was to remove the effect of certain characters having advantages over other characters because their players knew more than other players. If we restrict RD's release of information that could be discovered IC, it's possible for that situation to arise again - a character gains an informational advantage because his player tried something, with a different character, that no player has posted on the wiki about. There are two solutions to this problem. One is to require that all players wiki any information they obtain in-game as soon as they get it. This is unenforceable and silly. The other is to have RD wiki all obtainable information to level the playing field in advance.

Another reason is, simply, efficiency. Generally those who oppose full disclosure argue that players should work to find obtainable data on their own. The problem is that obtainable data is often not at all easy to obtain. Some data, such as the amounts of resources certain animals drop when hunted, is precisely obtainable, but only if characters spend significant resources to discover them. Do we really need to have a situation where players have to use their characters and significant amounts of their own time to obtain information that could be retrieved in under a minute by RD staff?

There is also some precedent. Resource gathering rates are arguably something that realistically should not be displayed as explicitly as they are in-game; even more so the 20% deviation in output. Building capacity was freely released by RD (even vehicle capacities, which RD is refusing to release, is being witheld not because they should not be released in general, but because they will soon be outdated), even though it is an excellent example of obtainable data that would take colossal effort to discover in-game (to my knowledge no character or player had anything approaching precise values for building capacities before RD released them on the wiki).

[[User:Sho|Sho]] 22:42, 11 Oct 2005 (EDT)

*Strictly speaking RD did not release the building capacity infomation. Thses details where released by the Programming Department (ProgD). A bug was discovered which effectively disabled the maximum number of persons . Since correction of this bug generated a number of support queries , ProgD felt that publishing this information would help explain what seemed to be changes in room capacities. --[[User:Chris Johnson|Chris Johnson]] 05:20, 12 Oct 2005 (EDT)

===Disambiguation for tools===
There are many cases where projects require either or two tools, such as projects that require a [[hammer]] or a [[stone hammer]] (but display the requirement as "[[hammer]]"). How will we treat these here? I can think of two options:
#We could replace every instance of "[[hammer]]" in a project requirements list with "[[hammer]] or [[stone hammer]]."
#We could use a special page for those. For example, create the page [[Hammer (requirement)]] to explain how the hammer requirement works. If we go with this, the way in which we name these pages (and what we put on them) is up for discussion.
What ideas do people have? [[User:Sho|Sho]] 23:35, 14 Oct 2005 (EDT)

== Tasks ==

=== Admin tasks ===
Ban globalmarketing, he is a spammer. --[[User:Nick Roberts|Nick Roberts]] 19:07, 20 Oct 2005 (EDT)

==== Pages for Deletion ====
Listed on [[:Category:Delete]]

=== User tasks ===

==== "Stamp of Approval" ====
It's not clear how much of the stuff here is data from Programming or Resources Department people (and therefore probably complete and correct) and how much is contributions from players like me (and therefore likely to need verification). For example, I'm not sure how much to trust the data on the ability of certain boat types to dock to each other; I feel that it looks like some types were left out, but I can't be sure. Some way of, say, putting a stamp of approval on information would be excellent. [[User:Sho|Sho]]

* A good idea would be to add notes into the discussion pages stating the information added and from what department. Personally, I've added the information for vehicles and animals, and so should be 99.9% accurate. --[[User:Anthony|Anthony Roberts]] 22:59, 16 Aug 2005 (EDT)

====Pages needing breakdown====
*[[Tools]] must be broken up into separate [[:Category:Tools]] articles.

Current events

2005-10-20T23:06:50Z

Nick Roberts: Ban globalmarketing, he is a spammer.

==What's going on==
===Templates===
I've created a couple of templates for editor use: [[Template:Stub]] and [[Template:Rewrite]]. [[Template:Stub]] is to be used on pages that are missing large amounts of important information - an example is [[Broom]]. [[Template:Rewrite]] is to be used on less severe cases of missing information, or on pages that merely need rewriting - an example is [[Alumina refiner]]. [[User:Sho|Sho]] 15:21, 24 Sep 2005 (EDT)
*Some changes have been made to the templates. From now on all editor templates will be listed on [[Help:Templates]]. [[User:Sho|Sho]] 14:42, 13 Oct 2005 (EDT)

===Weapons category===
I've just filled in the entire weapons category from info found IC. Please feel free to check it out, spell check, format etc. Just make sure it's consistent as all the pages now have consistent IC info.
[[User:Kabl00ey|Kabl00ey]] 04:37, 4 Oct 2005 (EDT)
*We should decide on a template for weapons, among other things. I'm thinking of listing the requirements the same way on pretty much every object type. --[[User:Nick Roberts|Nick Roberts]] 06:33, 15 Oct 2005 (EDT)
**All for it. Go ahead and format a weapon, and if it's good we'll slap the format onto all the weapons and tools. The requirements section should be the same for both, and other properties (weight, visibility) are similar - just that tools should have a "uses" section where weapons have "effectiveness." [[User:Sho|Sho]] 09:00, 15 Oct 2005 (EDT)
***Once again we come to the "what's the appropriate format" debate. The weapons category right now just reflects the IC information, and is displayed similarly. The only exception to this is the latter weapons (I started from the end, I have no idea why) where I've been formating for clarity, adding images and OOC info. [[User:Kabl00ey|Kabl00ey]] 19:34, 16 Oct 2005 (EDT)

===Machinery===
[[:Category:Machinery]] is finally done. Many pages are lacking information, though. [[User:Sho|Sho]] 14:42, 13 Oct 2005 (EDT)

=== Admin ===
To be sure: [[User:Kabl00ey|Kabl00ey]] is now a full admin on the Wiki, so contact him for any admin interference that is needed. As stated before, most of the moderation of the Wiki will be left to the players at large and will depend on self-organisation, but where admin privileges are needed, or where there are serious conflicts that do not seem to get resolved, [[User:Kabl00ey|Kabl00ey]] is in charge. He, in turn, has to follow Communications Department / general game administration policy and should create a thread in the CD forum in case of doubt.
--[[User:Jos Elkink|Jos Elkink]] 07:44, 16 Oct 2005 (EDT)

== Decisions ==

=== Language setup ===
Do you think maybe the different languages ought to have different wikis, instead of being on the same pages? --[[User:Nick Roberts|Nick Roberts]] 20:30, 12 Jul 2005 (EDT)
*I agree. --[[User:Creepyguyinblack|Creepyguyinblack]] 04:50, 13 Jul 2005 (EDT)
*I changed it. --[[User:Jos Elkink|Jos Elkink]] 05:08, 13 Jul 2005 (EDT)
*Would it be possible to make a true multi-language setup, similar to Wikipedia's? I don't know what's involved in making that work (I have a suspicion that it's not feasile here), but it's kind of annoying when half of the time [[Special:Randompage]] brings up a Polish page; also crosslinking articles is rather inelegant with the current system (no framework; also there are some pages like [[Jeep(pl)]]. [[User:Sho|Sho]]
*That would certainly be preferable... and was what I had in mind when originally making this suggestion. I don't like coming across polish articles when clicking on random page, or having search results clogged up with Polish links. --[[User:Nick Roberts|Nick Roberts]] 08:37, 15 Sep 2005 (EDT)

=== Agglomeration vs. subdivision ===

Some categories of items, such as [[tools]], have all of their elements listed on the same page. Others, such as [[resources]], have separate pages for everything. My gut instinct (as a Wikipedian) is to split everything into separate pages and use categories to tie them together (it makes it easier for people to just type what they're looking for in the search box), but I can see why we might want to keep things in big metapages - it's similar to the format found in IC guides, often the individual data aren't big enough for individual articles, and it would be loads of unrewarding data-entry grunt work. Anyone have any opinion? [[User:Sho|Sho]]

* The category system ([[tools]]) is so much clearer and easier to access the information you're looking for, so whilst I understand the Wikipedian urge to split everything, I think that the category system still provides easily accessible information. I cry a little on the inside when trying to find stuff on the seperate system ([[resources]]) - segregating the data, whilst easier to categorise and search, adds unnecessary pain in wading through links and editing pages. [[User:Kabl00ey|Kabl00ey]] 00:07, 17 Sep 2005 (EDT)
** With proper use of categories, I think splitting makes things easier. In Firefox, I can use quicksearches to instantly pull up a page on anything that has its own page, without clicking on any links. I can't do that with a monolithic megapage. In the same way, it's easier to just punch the thing you're looking for into the search box - one click - with split pages. Categories can bring the pages back together anyway. [[User:Sho|Sho]] 00:35, 17 Sep 2005 (EDT)
*** I agree with Sho, the category system that was used for the resources worked great. I think a similar system should be used for machines, buildings, vehicles, tools, et al. --[[User:Nick Roberts|Nick Roberts]] 08:53, 18 Sep 2005 (EDT)
****I'm surprised the tool set-up has lasted so long, it was only a copy/paste from an ingame guide I'd made - it looks ugly here. I'd like a segregated set-up there, but not for clothing I don't think, as that'd be no more of a copy of the in-game set-up - I've started discussion on clothing about how I'd like to go about finishing that section.--[[User:Hallucinatingfarmer|Hallucinatingfarmer]] 18:13, 22 Sep 2005 (EDT)
*****Yeah, everyone agrees with that HF. It just hasn't been gotten to yet. --[[User:Nick Roberts|Nick Roberts]] 13:49, 27 Sep 2005 (EDT)

===Resource Department disclosure===
Long-standing question: Since the repeal of the "find out in game" rule (or FOIG), should the RD be allowed/required to release to the wiki all information that can be discovered in-game?

Since I expect some long-winded responses to this that won't fit in a nested list format (or maybe that's just me), please post responses as subsections. [[User:Sho|Sho]] 22:49, 11 Oct 2005 (EDT)

====Yes====

The purpose of FOIG's repeal was to remove the effect of certain characters having advantages over other characters because their players knew more than other players. If we restrict RD's release of information that could be discovered IC, it's possible for that situation to arise again - a character gains an informational advantage because his player tried something, with a different character, that no player has posted on the wiki about. There are two solutions to this problem. One is to require that all players wiki any information they obtain in-game as soon as they get it. This is unenforceable and silly. The other is to have RD wiki all obtainable information to level the playing field in advance.

Another reason is, simply, efficiency. Generally those who oppose full disclosure argue that players should work to find obtainable data on their own. The problem is that obtainable data is often not at all easy to obtain. Some data, such as the amounts of resources certain animals drop when hunted, is precisely obtainable, but only if characters spend significant resources to discover them. Do we really need to have a situation where players have to use their characters and significant amounts of their own time to obtain information that could be retrieved in under a minute by RD staff?

There is also some precedent. Resource gathering rates are arguably something that realistically should not be displayed as explicitly as they are in-game; even more so the 20% deviation in output. Building capacity was freely released by RD (even vehicle capacities, which RD is refusing to release, is being witheld not because they should not be released in general, but because they will soon be outdated), even though it is an excellent example of obtainable data that would take colossal effort to discover in-game (to my knowledge no character or player had anything approaching precise values for building capacities before RD released them on the wiki).

[[User:Sho|Sho]] 22:42, 11 Oct 2005 (EDT)

*Strictly speaking RD did not release the building capacity infomation. Thses details where released by the Programming Department (ProgD). A bug was discovered which effectively disabled the maximum number of persons . Since correction of this bug generated a number of support queries , ProgD felt that publishing this information would help explain what seemed to be changes in room capacities. --[[User:Chris Johnson|Chris Johnson]] 05:20, 12 Oct 2005 (EDT)

===Disambiguation for tools===
There are many cases where projects require either or two tools, such as projects that require a [[hammer]] or a [[stone hammer]] (but display the requirement as "[[hammer]]"). How will we treat these here? I can think of two options:
#We could replace every instance of "[[hammer]]" in a project requirements list with "[[hammer]] or [[stone hammer]]."
#We could use a special page for those. For example, create the page [[Hammer (requirement)]] to explain how the hammer requirement works. If we go with this, the way in which we name these pages (and what we put on them) is up for discussion.
What ideas do people have? [[User:Sho|Sho]] 23:35, 14 Oct 2005 (EDT)

== Tasks ==

=== Admin tasks ===
Ban globalmarketing, he is a spammer.

==== Pages for Deletion ====
Listed on [[:Category:Delete]]

=== User tasks ===

==== "Stamp of Approval" ====
It's not clear how much of the stuff here is data from Programming or Resources Department people (and therefore probably complete and correct) and how much is contributions from players like me (and therefore likely to need verification). For example, I'm not sure how much to trust the data on the ability of certain boat types to dock to each other; I feel that it looks like some types were left out, but I can't be sure. Some way of, say, putting a stamp of approval on information would be excellent. [[User:Sho|Sho]]

* A good idea would be to add notes into the discussion pages stating the information added and from what department. Personally, I've added the information for vehicles and animals, and so should be 99.9% accurate. --[[User:Anthony|Anthony Roberts]] 22:59, 16 Aug 2005 (EDT)

====Pages needing breakdown====
*[[Tools]] must be broken up into separate [[:Category:Tools]] articles.

Beeswax

2005-10-17T14:13:54Z

Nick Roberts: raw data addition

170 grams a day

with [[knife]], 425g
with [[bone knife]], 297

Coal oven

2005-10-15T11:10:42Z

Nick Roberts: /* Projects */

The '''coal oven''' is similar to the [[oven]], except that it uses [[coal]] or [[charcoal]] as fuel instead of [[wood]].

==Requirements==

'''Resources required'''
* 3700 grams of [[stone]]

'''Labour required'''
* 8 days

'''Tools required'''
* [[trowel]]

A coal oven can only be built inside a [[building]].

==Projects==

'''Maximum workers''': 2
----
===Baking bread (coal)===

'''Output per day of labour'''
* 600 grams of [[bread]]

'''Maximum output'''
* 48000 grams

'''Required resources'''
* 600 grams of [[wheat flour]]
* 30 grams of [[coal]]

'''Required tools'''
* none
----
===Baking rye bread (coal)===

'''Output per day of labour'''
* 500 grams of [[rye bread]]

'''Maximum output'''
* 40000 grams

'''Required resources'''
* 500 grams of [[rye flour]]
* 30 grams of [[coal]]

'''Required tools'''
* none
----
===Baking cookies (coal)===

'''Output per day of labour'''
* 660 grams of [[cookies]]

'''Maximum output'''
* 52800 grams

'''Required resources'''
* 480 grams of [[pastry dough]]
* 180 grams of [[sugar]]
* 30 grams of [[coal]]

'''Required tools'''
* none
----
===Popping popcorn (coal)===

'''Output per day of labour'''
* 800 grams of [[popcorn]]

'''Maximum output'''
* 64000 grams

'''Required resources'''
* 800 grams of [[corn]]
* 40 grams of [[coal]]

'''Required tools'''
* none
----
===Baking cod (coal)===

'''Output per day of labour'''
* 250 grams of [[baked cod]]

'''Maximum output'''
* 20000 grams

'''Required resources'''
* 250 grams of [[cod]]
* 30 grams of [[coal]]

'''Required tools'''
* none
----
===Baking trout (coal)===

'''Output per day of labour'''
* 250 grams of [[baked trout]]

'''Maximum output'''
* 20000 grams

'''Required resources'''
* 250 grams of [[rainbow trout]]
* 30 grams of [[coal]]

'''Required tools'''
* none
----
===Baking sorghum bread (coal)===

'''Output per day of labour'''
* 725 grams of [[sorghum bread]]

'''Maximum output'''
* 58000 grams

'''Required resources'''
* 725 grams of [[sorghum flour]]
* 30 grams of [[coal]]

'''Required tools'''
* none
----
===Cooking meat (coal)===

'''Output per day of labour'''
* 200 grams of [[cooked meat]]

'''Maximum output'''
* 16000 grams

'''Required resources'''
* 225 grams of [[meat]]
* 25 grams of [[coal]]

'''Required tools'''
* none
----
===Baking pizza (coal)===

'''Output per day of labour'''
* 350 grams of [[pizza]]

'''Maximum output'''
* 28000 grams

'''Required resources'''
* 150 grams of [[pastry dough]]
* 250 grams of [[tomatoes]]
* 30 grams of [[coal]]

'''Required tools'''
* none
----

===Baking bread (charcoal)===

'''Output per day of labour'''
* 600 grams of [[bread]]

'''Maximum output'''
* 48000 grams

'''Required resources'''
* 600 grams of [[wheat flour]]
* 55 grams of [[charcoal]]

'''Required tools'''
* none
----
===Baking cod (charcoal)===

'''Output per day of labour'''
* 250 grams of [[baked cod]]

'''Maximum output'''
* 20000 grams

'''Required resources'''
* 250 grams of [[cod]]
* 55 grams of [[charcoal]]

'''Required tools'''
* none
----
===Baking cookies (charcoal)===

'''Output per day of labour'''
* 660 grams of [[cookies]]

'''Maximum output'''
* 52800 grams

'''Required resources'''
* 480 grams of [[pastry dough]]
* 180 grams of [[sugar]]
* 55 grams of [[charcoal]]

'''Required tools'''
* none
----
===Baking pizza (charcoal)===

'''Output per day of labour'''
* 350 grams of [[pizza]]

'''Maximum output'''
* 28000 grams

'''Required resources'''
* 150 grams of [[pastry dough]]
* 250 grams of [[tomatos]]
* 55 grams of [[charcoal]]

'''Required tools'''
* none
----
===Baking rye bread (charcoal)===

'''Output per day of labour'''
* 500 grams of [[rye bread]]

'''Maximum output'''
* 40000 grams

'''Required resources'''
* 500 grams of [[rye flour]]
* 55 grams of [[charcoal]]

'''Required tools'''
* none
----
===Baking sorghum bread (charcoal)===

'''Output per day of labour'''
* 725 grams of [[sorghum bread]]

'''Maximum output'''
* 58000 grams

'''Required resources'''
* 725 grams of [[sorghum flour]]
* 55 grams of [[charcoal]]

'''Required tools'''
* none
----
===Baking trout (charcoal)===

'''Output per day of labour'''
* 250 grams of [[baked trout]]

'''Maximum output'''
* 20000 grams

'''Required resources'''
* 250 grams of [[rainbow trout]]
* 55 grams of [[charcoal]]

'''Required tools'''
* none
----
===Cooking meat (charcoal)===

'''Output per day of labour'''
* 200 grams of [[cooked meat]]

'''Maximum output'''
* 16000 grams

'''Required resources'''
* 225 grams of [[meat]]
* 45 grams of [[charcoal]]

'''Required tools'''
* none
----
===Popping popcorn (charcoal)===

'''Output per day of labour'''
* 800 grams of [[popcorn]]

'''Maximum output'''
* 64000 grams

'''Required resources'''
* 800 grams of [[corn]]
* 70 grams of [[charcoal]]

'''Required tools'''
* none
----
===Boiling mixture [a-j] (charcoal)===

'''Output per day of labour'''
* 25 grams of unknown

'''Maximum output'''
* 2000 grams

'''Required resources'''
* 50 grams of [[apothecary mixtures|herbal mixture (a-j)]]
* 14 grams of [[charcoal]]

'''Required tools'''
* none

''Note: all charcoal boiling mixture projects have the same information.''
----
===Boiling mixture [a-j] (coal)===

'''Output per day of labour'''
* 25 grams of unknown

'''Maximum output'''
* 2000 grams

'''Required resources'''
* 50 grams of [[apothecary mixtures|herbal mixture (a-j)]]
* 8 grams of [[coal]]

'''Required tools'''
* none

''Note: all coal boiling mixture projects have the same information.''
----
===Brewing coffee (coal)===

'''Output per day of labour'''
* 175 grams of [[coffee]]

'''Maximum output'''
* 14000 grams

'''Required resources'''
* 50 grams of [[roasted coffee]]
* 4 grams of [[coal]]
* 200 grams of [[water]]

'''Required tools'''
* none
----
===Brewing coffee (charcoal)===

'''Output per day of labour'''
* 175 grams of [[coffee]]

'''Maximum output'''
* 14000 grams

'''Required resources'''
* 50 grams of [[roasted coffee]]
* 8 grams of [[charcoal]]
* 200 grams of [[water]]

'''Required tools'''
* none
----
===Brewing tea (coal)===

'''Output per day of labour'''
* 175 grams of [[tea]]

'''Maximum output'''
* 14000 grams

'''Required resources'''
* 50 grams of [[crushed tea]]
* 4 grams of [[coal]]
* 200 grams of [[water]]

'''Required tools'''
* none
----
===Brewing tea (charcoal)===

'''Output per day of labour'''
* 175 grams of [[tea]]

'''Maximum output'''
* 14000 grams

'''Required resources'''
* 50 grams of [[crushed tea]]
* 8 grams of [[charcoal]]
* 200 grams of [[water]]

'''Required tools'''
* none

[[Category:Machinery]]

Smoker

2005-10-15T11:09:43Z

Nick Roberts: /* Projects */

A '''smoker''' is used to make [[meat]] and fish edible.

==Requirements==

'''Resources Required'''
* 1100 grams of [[wood]]

'''Labour Required'''
* 1.5 days

'''Tools Required'''
* [[hammer]]

A smoker can be built anywhere.

==Projects==

'''Maximum workers''': 2
----
===Smoking meat===

'''Output per day of labour'''
* 350 grams of [[smoked meat]]

'''Maximum output'''
* 28000 grams

'''Required resources'''
* 400 grams of [[meat]]
* 30 grams of [[wood]]

'''Required tools'''
* none
----
===Smoking cod===

'''Output per day of labour'''
* 350 grams of unknown

'''Maximum output'''
* 28000 grams

'''Required resources'''
* 400 grams of [[cod]]
* 30 grams of [[wood]]

'''Required tools'''
* none
----
===Smoking pike===

'''Output per day of labour'''
* 350 grams of unknown

'''Maximum output'''
* 28000 grams

'''Required resources'''
* 400 grams of [[pike]]
* 30 grams of [[wood]]

'''Required tools'''
* none
----
===Smoking salmon===

'''Output per day of labour'''
* 350 grams of unknown

'''Maximum output'''
* 28000 grams

'''Required resources'''
* 400 grams of [[salmon]]
* 30 grams of [[wood]]

'''Required tools'''
* none
----
===Smoking trout===

'''Output per day of labour'''
* 350 grams of unknown

'''Maximum output'''
* 28000 grams

'''Required resources'''
* 400 grams of [[trout]]
* 30 grams of [[wood]]

'''Required tools'''
* none

[[Category:Machinery]]

Bauxite drill

2005-10-15T11:06:20Z

Nick Roberts:

A ''bauxite drill'' will greatly increase the gathering rate for gathering [[bauxite]], which is a necessary component of [[alumina]], which is again refined into [[aluminum]]. This machine is also much more efficient than a [[pickaxe]], which will also increase the gathering rate for bauxite.

==Requirements==

'''Resources Required'''
* 2000 grams of [[steel]]
* 200 grams of [[rubber]]
* 10 grams of [[diamonds]]

'''Labour Required'''
* 14 days

'''Tools Required'''
* [[screwdriver]]

You can only build this when you are on a location that has [[bauxite]].

[[Category:Machinery]]
[[Category:Incomplete]]

Bauxite drill

2005-10-15T11:04:47Z

Nick Roberts:

A ''bauxite drill'' will greatly increase the gathering rate for gathering [[bauxite]], which is a necessary component of [[alumina]].

==Requirements==

'''Resources Required'''
* 2000 grams of [[steel]]
* 200 grams of [[rubber]]
* 10 grams of [[diamonds]]

'''Labour Required'''
* 14 days

'''Tools Required'''
* [[screwdriver]]

You can only build this when you are on a location that has [[bauxite]].

[[Category:Machinery]]
[[Category:Incomplete]]

Bauxite drill

2005-10-15T11:02:47Z

Nick Roberts:

==Requirements==

'''Resources Required'''
* 2000 grams of [[steel]]
* 200 grams of [[rubber]]
* 10 grams of [[diamonds]]

'''Labour Required'''
* 14 days

'''Tools Required'''
* [[screwdriver]]

You can only build this when you are on a location that has [[bauxite]].

[[Category:Machinery]]
[[Category:Incomplete]]

Current events

2005-10-15T10:33:27Z

Nick Roberts: /* Weapons category */

Simple twiner

2005-10-12T10:25:54Z

Nick Roberts:

A ''simple twiner'' is used to make string from the yarn of [[hemp]], [[cotton]], and [[silk]]. While not quite as efficient as the [[twiner]], it is easier to build. To create yarn you will need a [[spindle]].

==Requirements==

'''Resources Required'''
* 300 grams of [[wood]]

'''Labour Required'''
* 2 days

'''Tools Required'''
* [[hammer]]

A simple twiner can only be built inside a [[building]].

==Projects==

'''Maximum workers''': unknown
----
===Twining cotton string===

'''Output per day of labour'''
* 50 grams of [[cotton string]]

'''Maximum output'''
* 4000 grams

'''Required resources'''
* 50 grams of [[cotton yarn]]

'''Required tools'''
* none

----

===Twining hemp string===

'''Output per day of labour'''
* 60 grams of [[hemp string]]

'''Maximum output'''
* 4800 grams

'''Required resources'''
* 60 grams of [[hemp yarn]]

'''Required tools'''
* none

----

===Twining silk string===

'''Output per day of labour'''
* 40 grams of [[silk string]]

'''Maximum output'''
* 3200 grams

'''Required resources'''
* 40 grams of [[silk yarn]]

'''Required tools'''
* none

[[Category:Incomplete]]
[[Category:Machinery]]

User:The Surly Cantrian

2005-10-09T12:17:02Z

Nick Roberts: I know it's not my user page but I can't stand to see HTML in a Wiki

I've been playing since 2003, after finding the game through a link on gamewyrd... and I've been hooked ever since. I have 14 characters over 50 now, so its probably fairly easy to spot them. Just keep that knowledge to yourself though ;)

I'm currently a member of the [[Communications Department]] again, finally. Not sure what that means for all you folk, but I have no plans to cut back on any ranting... if I feel it should be said, I'll say it. And if things annoy me, I always tend to say. And if I annoy people, they tend to say. Which can annoy me... a vicious circle.

Anyway, I am (unhealthily often) on IRC if you wanted to speak to me. I'm also frequently on MSN and Yahoo, superiorbasturd@hotmail.com and issan_uk respectively. Although hopefully no-one will actually want to talk to me...

*AIM: Erm... I actually can't remember my AIM address... if you find it, could you tell me? I'd appreciate its return.
*MSN: superiorbasturd@hotmail.com
*YIM: issan_uk

Current events

2005-10-09T11:58:14Z

Nick Roberts: /* Spam */ (resolved, therefore irrelevant)

Interface Guide

2005-10-03T05:52:40Z

Nick Roberts: P button only helps drag, not other projects

==Cantr II Basic Interface Guide==
===Introduction===

Welcome to Cantr II. This is a short introductory guide to
Cantr II's interface. On the whole, the interface is fairly intuitive, so feel free just to jump in and play - this guide is by no means essential. But for those who, like myself, were a bit confused to start with, this is a gentle introduction about what to click on and why.

If you want an introduction to how the game works in general - go [[http://www.cantr.net/ooc/index.php?l=1 here]] See the general explanation
and newbie guide in particular.

Also, take time to read the [[http://www.cantr.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3488 FAQs]].
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===Main Page===
This is the first page you will see after login. On top is a Player Info section where you have information about yoursef as the player, and a '''Change''' button which opens a page where you can change your account details.

Next is the Messages section with important messages from the [[Cantr Staff]]. These messages can be removed when you have finished reading them if you choose. The are often included at the top of your Day Report if you need to refer to them.

Next you will see the Characters List which shows all of the characters you have created. Listed are the name of your characters (oldest at the top), their sex, their location and progress indicator(s). '''P''' is short for [[project]], '''T''' for [[travel]], and '''D''' for [[dragging]]. The progress for these activities is displayed as the percent finished or traveled. Sometimes you will see two progress indicators for one character. This is usually because your character is working on a project while traveling in a vehicle.

If the name of your character is displayed in white, then some new event(s) has happened. If nothing new has happened it will be displayed in gray. If you click on a particular character's icon http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_small_char_happy.gif, then you will go to that character's page.

Below is the Player Menu with these buttons:

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_newchar.gif - Create new character

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_unsubscribe.gif - Unsubscribe from Cantr (use with caution!)

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_logout.gif - Logout
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===Character Info Box===
At the top of almost all pages when playing Cantr there will be a short summary about your character (just so you don't forget who you're playing) and links to the seven main pages.

The header displays the Cantr [[time]] and how many minutes you have left.

Next is the name of your character. (Note: This is the name YOU know your character by - there's nothing to stop you giving different names out or other characters choosing to remember you by a differenty name. You can change this the same way you change any name in the game) Next to your name is a small link to the character description page - explained later.

The character's [[age]], the weight they are carrying and their location are all self-explanatory.

If your character is participating in a project, a short description will appear below the location. Clicking on the project name will bring up details on the project, clicking on the "'''X'''" will end your characters's participation in the project. The project will not be lost or deleted - you can go and find it later on the "Activity" page (see below).

Below this there is a row of links to the seven main pages that you will use in Cantr. I'll go through these one by one...
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===Events Page===
The events page is central to playing Cantr. It will be the first page to load when you start to play with a character. It displays everything your character sees and hears.

To say something that will appear on the screen of every character in the same place (though not in buildings if there are any) Type into the box at the top and click '''Talk to all''' (talking to an individual character will be covered later)

Below this is the list of things that are happening where you are. This is just a very simple example. A busy town will have much more going on. They are listed with the most recent activities at the top. Each activity is time-stamped with the Cantr day and hour.

Every (living) character that appears on the events page will be displayed in orange. This is a link to the character interaction page, where you can change the name you know them by, talk to them, help them and many other things.

At the bottom left are two options to '''hide all''' of the events. and '''show all''' of the events (over the past few days)
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===Inventory Page===

This page gives list of all items in your [[inventory]]. Different types of objects (notes, envelopes, materials, clothes, tools etc...) will have different icons...

'''Universal Icons:'''

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_small_drop.gif - Drop: Drops the item where your character stands. Anyone else in the same area can then pick it up. In the case of materials, you will be asked how many grams you wish to drop.

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_small_give.gif - Give: Gives the item to another character. In the case of materials, you will be asked how many grams you want to hand over. Then there will be drop down box where you can choose the character to give the item to. (Note: Each character has a limit to how much they can carry - if you try to give something to a character and it is too heavy for them, an error message will say so)

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_small_use.gif - Use: Use the item on a project or to start a project. You will be presented with a drop down list of all the projects, and, in the case of materials, be asked how many grams you wish to use. Or you will be asked to input the details of the project to be started.

'''Notes and Envelopes Icons:'''

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_small_copy.gif - Copy: Make an exact copy of a note

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_small_envelop.gif - Envelope: Put the note or envelope into another envelope

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_small_edit.gif - Edit: Edit a note (as long as it has not been stored as uneditable) You can use HTML in notes, but not in note titles

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_small_read.gif - Read: Read a note

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_small_seal.gif - Seal: Seals an envelope. The seal will be broken when another character opens it. Your name will also be on the seal, so the character opening the envelope will know
who sealed it.

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_small_empty_envelop.gif - Open: Opens the envelope and lists all the notes and envelopes inside so you can choose which to
take out. If the envelope is sealed, you will be asked if you want to break the seal

'''Materials Icons:'''

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_small_store.png - Store: Put the material into a storage item. You will be asked how many grams you wish to store. (Note: You will be informed if the amount you wish to store exceeds how much more space there is)

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_small_eat.gif - Eat: Let's your character consume a [[healing food]]. Note: Your character eats to satisfy hunger [[Auto-eat|automatically]].

'''Clothes Icons:'''

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_small_wear.gif - Wear: Your character will wear the item of [[clothing]], and other characters will see it when they
look at your character description. (It can be taken off by going to the description of your own character)

'''Items Icons:'''

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_small_repair.gif - Repair: [[Repair]] an item
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===Location Page===
This page gives some details about where your character is.

The map on the left is a small representation of the local area. In the center is a list of all the [[raw materials]] available. Clicking on the icon next to the materials will take you to a page where you can start a project to gather it.

To the right is a small image that does nothing much but just look pretty...

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_animals.gif - This button in the center is a link to a list of [[animal]]s in that location. Currently the only interaction available with animals is to attack them.

At the bottom of the page is a list of the roads out of the location. Next to each path there are three icons:

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_small_pointat.png - Point: Will make your character point the path, so other characters will see that

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_small_follow.gif - Travel: will make your character follow the path (not an option if your character is in the middle of a project - stop your participation first)

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_small_improve.gif - Improve: Will start a [[road improvement]] project to improve the type of road
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===Buildings & Vehicles Page===

This gives lists of [[:Category:Vehicles|vehicles]] and [[:Category:Buildings|buildings]] in the same location (if any). There is name of vehicle/building, type of it in brackets and a few pretty obvious icons...

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_small_pointat.png - Point: Point this building or vehicle

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_small_enter.gif - Enter: Go into building or get into vehicle. Not possible if building/vehicle is locked or if your character is in the middle of a project - stop your participation first

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_small_knock.gif - Knock: Your character will knock on the door. This will be visible on the events page for all characters outside and inside the building/room
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===People Page===
This gives a list of every [[character]] in the same location. It is also the same page that will appear when you click on a character's orange link from the events page (but only
for that character or those characters in the exchange)

The icons are as follow:

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_small_char_happy.gif - Description: Will take you to a description of the person, with some vital [[States|statistics]] (you get to see less about another character than you do your own) You can also change the name you know the character by after clicking this icon.

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_small_talk.gif - Talk: Will allow you to talk to a person. What you say will only be heard by that character (but other characters in the same location will see you saying something to that particular character)

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_small_pointat.png - Point: Every character in the same place will see you point at that particular character

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_small_help.gif - Help: Your character will help that person in their attempt to drag.

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_small_drag.gif - Drag: Choose a location (building or vehicle) and you will start to drag that character there (not an option if your character is in the middle of a project - stop your participation first).

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_small_hit.gif - Hit: Choose a [[Weapons_and_Protection|weapon]] and how much force you want to use and your character will attack that character
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===Objects Page===
This page is similar to the inventory page, except that it lists everything 'on the [[ground|ground]]' where your character is, including machines. Icons are the same as in the inventory page except for a few:

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_small_take.gif - Take: Your character will take the item. For materials, you will be asked how many grams you wish to take

'''pull''' - Pull/Push: After choosing which building, your character will push the note or envelope into a building

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_small_bury.gif - Bury: Your character will start a project to bury the [[dead body]]

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_small_use.gif - Use: If there are any [[:Category:Machinery|machines]], you can use this button to start a project. In most cases this will bring up a form where the details for the project can be entered.

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_small_retrieve.gif - Retrieve: If there are any [[containers]], you can use this button to retrieve resources from it
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===Activity Page===

This page is a list of all activites in the area your character is in. Because there are often many unfinished projects, it takes a long time to load them all. Instead,
there is a search field, so you can search for specific types of projects. Leaving the field blank will load all activities. Projects started by your character are listed automatically.

An individual project will look similar to this:

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_small_info.gif http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_small_join.gif http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_small_end.gif farming to get rice (a woman in her thirties, 1015-1)

The first icon gives details on the projects. Clicking the second icon will make your character participate in that project. The cross will cancel the project (only possible if no progress has been made and no materials have been used if required)

The character in brackets is the character who originally started the project if they are still in the same place (not necessarily the character working on the project) and is a link to the character details as usual. After that is a Cantr time stamp of when the project was started.

Projects are listed in three colours:
* Dark grey - Has no one working on the project
* Light grey - Has other characters working on the project
* White - Is the project your character is working on
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===Character and Player Menus===

Finally, at the bottom of most pages are two menus.

'''Character Menu:'''

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_note.gif - Will create a new note for editing - will appear in your character's inventory

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_envelop.gif - Will create an envelope in your character's inventory

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_build.gif - Opens the build menu, where you can start projects to build tools, machines, vehicles etc...

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_clothes.gif - Opens the menu for clothes and accessories, similar to the build menu

'''Player Menu:'''

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_back2.gif - Go back to the [[Interface Guide#Main Page|player page]] (the list of your characters)

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_help.gif - More details/help

http://www.cantr.net/graphics/cantr/pictures/button_logout.gif - Logout

Dirtiness

2005-10-02T09:57:10Z

Nick Roberts:

While this status bar appears with the rest of your status bar, it's effect has not yet been implemented, and your dirtiness value cannot change from 0%, currently.

Broom

2005-10-02T09:54:02Z

Nick Roberts:

A '''broom''' has [[Unusable items|no use]] in Cantr.

== Requirements ==

'''Resources Required'''
* 500g [[wood]]

'''Labour Required'''
* 1.3 days

'''Tools Required'''
* none

[[Category: Tools]]

Broom

2005-10-02T09:53:25Z

Nick Roberts:

A '''broom''' has [[Unusable items|no use]] in Cantr.

'''Resources Required'''
* 500g [[wood]]

'''Labour Required'''
* 1.3 days

'''Tools Required'''
* none

[[Category: Tools]]